April 26

[Zeke]

Ha. (http://www.trektoday.com/news/260406_02.shtml) I don't have to do that TJI now -- reality made my point for me. Abrams is apparently the producer, but he's not the director, and the Academy thing was just one more resurfacing of one of Trek's oldest rumours. It may all happen anyway, but this "announcement" still won't have mattered.


In the Andromeda episode I watched yesterday, Dylan quotes his mentor, Admiral Stark: "If your mother says she loves you, verify it." How much more should you verify what Variety magazine says?

[richardson]

Note though, he just said some of the information in the report was not true.

He did not deny the academy plot outright, in fact...

[Naki]

Wow, that explains so much

Makes you think don't it?

[e of pi]

No, what's scary is that on another forum I frequent, one poster sugested a series of basic plots that could actually make such a movie good! I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT: Found it.

Regarding Armageddon, the screenplay is just the weak point of the movie. Hence my worries.

Anyway, I have pondered a bit more about the premise. There is hardly anything that would open more opportunities and bear more risks.

For instance, I would love to see some decent character development in the movie. Kirk as a cadet who is always bullied by Finnegan and who gains self-confidence through his friendship with Spock. Maybe it could even be mentioned that young Kirk is still traumatized by the events on Tarsus IV (Kodos killing the colonists). But I expect the movie to show us an even more reckless Kirk than in TOS, one who doesn't need and who wouldn't take advice.

A perfect guest role: Leonard Nimoy as Skon. As we know that Sarek was always against Spock's entry into Starfleet, his grandfather may have given him moral support.

The Klingons should be in the movie, and they should be more trigger-happy than ever, and *with flat foreheads*. But not without a symbolic olive branch in the end.

It would be extremely contrived to have all the TOS characters in the movie. But perhaps Bones could be somehow involved.

Other people and things that should appear:
- Garth of Izar, as Kirk's father figure
- The Kobayashi Maru test (I won't watch the movie if it's not incorporated!)
- The ship on which Kirk served at that time (although it is a bit controversial whether it's the Republic or the Farragut, but it has to be one of these two)
- Gary Mitchell (it was mentioned that he and Kirk were friends on the academy)
- Ruth (who may be the "blonde lab technician" that Mitchell mentioned)

Somehow I have the impression that nothing of this will be in the movie, and that the authors pull everything off the hat, screwing Kirk's and Spock's biographies and more.

[MaverickZer0]

One wonders why the academy students idea was thrown around at all.
One also wonders why we want another Star Trek movie after Nemesis (Not saying it wouldn't be good, but look at the last one.)
There's kind of not much more you can do with TNG, pretty much the only thing they could do is the years they skipped between the second-last and last episodes of Enterprise.
...Hey, a thought! What if that thing I said?

[Zeke]

Nemesis was great. Not First Contact great, but great.

Boy, I was pretty smug in that newspost, wasn't I? I think I need a slap or something.

[richardson]

Hmm.... I sense a Kirk Revival...

Maybe even an Enterprise Revival. (The ship, not the show.)

I sense a disturbance in the Braga... things are going exactly as I have forseen...

*'Yodck' proceeds to light-spork 'Richardson'*

[ijdgaf]

I want Bryan Singer to do it. If Paramount doesn't go with him, they're practically just throwin' their money away.

Also, if this does come out in 2008, it's the most half-assed "forced hiatus" I ever saw. I may not think the hiatus move was the best idea at the time, but now that they've done it... they should at least stick with it, right?

It's silly.

Not "Wii" silly, but silly nonetheless.

[Ginga]

Not "Wii" silly, but silly nonetheless.

I'm laughing about this "Wii" thing so hard that I'm crying as we type right now!

But back on topic... er... I don't know. ._.

[Hejira]

Not "Wii" silly, but silly nonetheless.

*runs crying and screaming*

*from a distance* They'll change it back! They'll have to!

[Tate]

Not "Wii" silly, but silly nonetheless.
I didn't understand this when I first read it.
Then I went to www.gameinformer.com
Now I understand. :lol:

[Alexia]

*blinks* :shock:

They are calling a gaming system... Wii?

*blinks again*

The had every word available in the English language and they chose... Wii?

They clearly pay those naming people far too much.

[Alexia]

...or, thinking about it, way too little, and this is their way of getting revenge.

[Zeke]

The had every word available in the English language and they chose... Wii?

Because.

...Man, that joke was dead before it hit the ground. (So expect to hear it a lot.)

[Hejira]

What the hell are they gonna call the next Game Boy? The Mii? I don't care how meaningful it is, it's had me screaming, "Wheeeeeeeeee!" all day making people give me weird stares and stuff. I dropped out of school specifically to avoid that stuff.

*runs back into a normal viewing distance*

I'll be fine, only because my preferred choice of words aren't a valid choice on this board. I...I...*sigh*

I guess I'll be preordering a Wii.

[ijdgaf]

Hey, I'll be preordering it just the same. I just worry Nintendo has shot themselves in the foot by giving their new system a name so silly, nobody's gonna go for it.

And Revolution was such the perfect name too....

But now that I've thought on it more, I thought "iPod" sounded silly too. So what do I know?

[Hejira]

But nobody says, "Out of the way, I'm going to iPod myself if I don't get to a toilet soon!" do they?

...we should start doing that. Seriously.

[Derek]

^ Honestly I've never said "wee" in that situation either. Always "pee". But it's doubtful people would have had as much a problem with the Nintendo "P" or even "Pii".

[Hejira]

What, like Piikachu? :D

It's probably because, against our will, Those Of Us Who Have A Problem With The Name have been stuck saying, "Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!" in a high-piched voice ever since we found out.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

[Nate the Great]

Just popping in to give another vote in favor of an Academy movie. I've been all for that the last ten years. If they did Kirk as a kid right, that is, respecting the backstory that has been built around him in the Expanded Universe (i.e. make a movie of the book Best Destiny, or something like it), that'd be cool. I mean, "do it right" literally. They lost A LOT of fans in that debacle called "let's rewrite 22nd century history the way we want to and spit in the face of what we've already said."

Not that I'm dissing Enterprise. It's a decent show. It's just not Star Trek. It's a freaky alternate version of the Star Trek universe I've come to love.

[Alexia]

The had every word available in the English language and they chose... Wii?

Because.

...Man, that joke was dead before it hit the ground. (So expect to hear it a lot.)

I'm gonna blame being at work (so therefore brain dead) for this, but I really don't get it...

[evay]

^ Honestly I've never said "wee" in that situation either. Always "pee". But it's doubtful people would have had as much a problem with the Nintendo "P" or even "Pii".
We are the Wights Who Say "Wii!" 8)

[richardson]

They'd get a lot more fans back if they took back their bad death for kirk. (Taking a disruptor shot for picard, like in the book for generations, would have been a fitting death, but just falling down with a bridge? I didn't like it much the first time I watched it, and I was still a kid who didn't know jack-diddly squat about kirk's past. )

[Derek]

They'd get a lot more fans back if they took back their bad death for kirk.
It's amazing learning about the stuff in Star Trek I'm supposed to be offended at. I never had a problem with that scene.

(I was also surprised to learn how I was supposed to be insulted at what TNG did with Scotty in "Relics" since they gave the episode actual depth instead of saying, "hey look, a cameo.")

[Gatac]

While I do not take offence at the scene per se, I did rejoice quite a lot when Kirk came back in Shatner's novels. (Which are great fun to read, by the way.)

Gatac

[Chancellor Valium]

Wii are not amused by the name change.

@Zeke: Don't think you'll get out of it that easily :P

Oh, and they need to do a film which is different. Maybe something DS9 related. Or that isn't centred on the UFP.

[MaverickZer0]

Oh, it's not that bad. Since the whole 'the controller is a remote thing' I've been kinda prepared. Now when I hear about something Nintendo has done like this, I just die a little inside.

[mark726]

Something tells me there won't be much left of Maverick after Wii comes out... :wink:

[MaverickZer0]

Is there now?
...Nah. Then again, I'm the type of person who get's easily distr-
Ooh, kitty.

[Hejira]

I no longer have A Problem With The Name. It's more of a picture than a word, you ever notice that?

If not, hold up three fingers on one hand and two on the other to spell Wii. Now count the amount of fingers you're holding up.

Okay, now count the number of home consoles Nintendo's made, including the Wii.

Awesome, oui?

[MaverickZer0]

Niiiice. I never noticed that before.
It's possible this was an accident on Nintendo's part, but still, niiiiice.

[Zeke]

I'm gonna blame being at work (so therefore brain dead) for this, but I really don't get it...

It's a little forced. You have to pronounce Wii like "why."

[Hejira]

Even though that's the incorrect pronounciation.

And people looking for a cheapish console for their kids are gonna pronounce it like that too, and why not? ( :roll: )

We ( :roll: ) got off to a rocky start, but now I have a bond with this console. The bond of Constant Mispronounciation and Misunderstanding. I really, really should get one for free because of this.

Because free stuff is always good.

[Zeke]

And this bond of yours is governed by the wiik nuclear force, I suppose?

[Alexia]

I'm gonna blame being at work (so therefore brain dead) for this, but I really don't get it...

It's a little forced. You have to pronounce Wii like "why."

A little? :roll:

[Zeke]

Yes. A little.

Just a little wii bit.

[Lostoyannaya]

Yes. A little.

Just a little wii bit.

Wait, you're Scottish?

~~Lostoyannaya

[mark726]

Oh good heavens the puns of started. Someone's going to have to put a stop to this...

::Tries to plan out something for the end of the wiikend.::

Wait, NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Puns are a habit, and very hard to quite cold turkey. You have to wiin yourself off them gradually.

[evay]

I agree. They start popping up in your speech like wiids before you realize it.

[Derek]

Okay, that was just wiik, evay. I don't think this horse you guys are beating is going to stay alive much longer. I can tell from the wiizing.

[ijdgaf]

I'm at that point now where I really don't care what they call the new console, I'm just sort of sick of hearing complaints about it now. I'd buy it even if Penny Arcade's suggested name for it went through, so it doesn't really matter much to me.

And despite the punning talent, I'm also at that point where my mind sees a wii joke and groans automatically.

[Chancellor Valium]

Yes. A little.

Just a little wii bit.

Wait, you're Scottish?

~~Lostoyannaya

Or Scohtish? Like Cohlinn Powll?

Re: wii, frankly, anything which sounds like a euphemism for using the facilities is definitely going down the dumper come sales time.

[e of pi]

Agriid. I certainlii won't buy one. Then again, I don't actuallii own anii consoles, or aniithing more modern than a Gameboy Advanced. Aniiway, wii are wii iiven talking about this aniimore?

[evay]

Aniiway, wii are wii iiven talking about this aniimore?
good effort to rhyme it both ways, but then you should have written "I certainlii won't bii one." (and if we're continuing along this ridiculous path, I suppose I'll have to change my username to iivay?)

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Then again, I don't actuallii own anii consoles, or aniithing more modern than a Gameboy Advanced.

I've got you beat. I have an orginal boiled-cabbage-green-screened original Game Boy gathering dust in a closet in BC somewhere.

[mark726]

Oh, I love thii original game boys! I have one of those in my desk in my room. Still has a pokemon cartridge in it, if I'm not mistaken... Err, I mean, super mario brothers...right... :oops:

[MaverickZer0]

Why is everyone so ashamed of Pokemon? I have at least one from every generation, and I don't shirk about it. They're good games.
*plays Pokemon Silver, which is the BEST version, no matter what anyone else says*

[richardson]

Fire red is the best. I can pretty much bring down ownage on anybody in any game with my team there.

Though, I too, have owned at least one of every generation, though alas, most have escaped into the mists of time, save for Fire Red, and Emerald....

My precious....

*Gollum looks at Richardson in a freaked out way. Yodck just gets the frying pan again.*

[Hejira]

Oh god. Imagine Pokémon on the Wii.

ONLINE, guys.

Yeah. Wiicked.

Wii wants it iimiidiiately.

[Lostoyannaya]

Why is everyone so ashamed of Pokemon? I have at least one from every generation, and I don't shirk about it. They're good games.
*plays Pokemon Silver, which is the BEST version, no matter what anyone else says*

Ii dunno. When Ii was stiill young and stupiid...okay, it's too hard to type like this. Ehem. When I was young and stupid I thought it was clever to have the Pokemon move on Crystal version... :shock:

~~Lostoyannaya :mrgreen:

[Chancellor Valium]

Then again, I don't actuallii own anii consoles, or aniithing more modern than a Gameboy Advanced.

I've got you beat. I have an orginal boiled-cabbage-green-screened original Game Boy gathering dust in a closet in BC somewhere.

I still occasionally use mine, so there :P

[MaverickZer0]

Then again, I don't actuallii own anii consoles, or aniithing more modern than a Gameboy Advanced.

I've got you beat. I have an orginal boiled-cabbage-green-screened original Game Boy gathering dust in a closet in BC somewhere.

I still occasionally use mine, so there :P

"Occasionally?"
Got you beat.
Frequently.

[Chancellor Valium]

:eek:

[PointyHairedJedi]

*plays Pokemon Silver, which is the BEST version, no matter what anyone else says*
Preach it, brother.

At this point it's pretty much a matter of whichever console the next Gran Turismo game comes out on, I'll buy. So, that'll be a PS3 then.

The film can go take a running leap as far as I'm concerned. I am positively Dogbertian in the sheer depth of my uncaring - now that my first love, Doctor Who, has returned from its untimely grave, Trek has faded into the realm of pleasant memory from which it will likely never return.

[Marill]

Why is everyone so ashamed of Pokemon? I have at least one from every generation, and I don't shirk about it. They're good games.
Waaa, I stop posting here and a Pokemon topic starts? :o

I'm sure the last time I mentioned the P (or wii.. god damn it I'm not a pun person, I'll leave that to TR) word here there wasn't much love. Oh well.. I'll join in.

I've recently discovered the Game Cube games (now that final joke in the Voyagers series makes a little more sense) and I'm in love with XD and Colosseum. I do hope the Wii/Revolution does not get a Pokemon game, I demand another Game Cube game. I'm too cheap, I already have to fork out money for a DS when Diamond/Pearl get released in what, 2008 or something lol.

I love Silver too, but my cartridge is broken - my saves keep getting erased so I decided to get the rom. The only thing I've done on it for weeks is try to get my Eevee's evolve :x

When I was young and stupid I thought it was clever to have the Pokemon move on Crystal version...
Heh me too, but I'm still stupid :?

[MaverickZer0]

When I was young and stupid I thought it was clever to have the Pokemon move on Crystal version...
Heh me too, but I'm still stupid :?

You mean...it's not that clever to have them move? o_0

[Marill]

Oh yeh, why do you think I'm so addicted to the Game Cube games :D

[Lostoyannaya]

When I was young and stupid I thought it was clever to have the Pokemon move on Crystal version...
Heh me too, but I'm still stupid :?

You mean...it's not that clever to have them move? o_0

Not when you're bouncing around the house because a package from your uncle in America has arrived containing said game to the point that you fall over and hurt something.

~~Lostoyannaya o_o;;

[Zeke]

Hey, it's Marill! Glad you're still out there.

I've posted my views on Pokémon before, but that was some time ago, so I'll reiterate. I love the games, at least the main series; they were genuinely original when they first appeared and have since had many imitators, but few equals. (It's unfortunate that they started the "multiple versions" thing, however.) The show was lame but harmless. And here's the heretical part... I love the first movie. Not in an ironic way, either -- I genuinely think it's great.

I've recently discovered the Game Cube games (now that final joke in the Voyagers series makes a little more sense)

Really? Which one? Because I didn't have Colosseum till last week.

[mark726]

Oh pokemon. I was definitely obsessed with it back with blue and red. I kept up with them through Silver/Gold, but then I kind of stopped playing game boy in general. They do still have a soft spot in my heart, I admit. When I'm playing Smash Bros, my personal favorite is still pikachu...

I haven't had a chance to really play around with Colosseum, unfortunately. It's something I'll need to look into, I think.

Which one was the first one, anyway? Was that the Mewtwo one?

[MaverickZer0]

It was one of the two Mewtwo ones. There was another, unnumbered one featuring Mewtwo later on as well.
Personally, my favorite movie was the second one...I still watch the show occasionally, too.
...Which Voyagers joke? I don't see anything in part 7.

[Marill]

Hey, it's Marill! Glad you're still out there.
Woohoo, I'm remembered.. wait that's a bad thing, scrap that :D

Speaking of, I can't remember if it's possible on phpbb as my forum's set so anybody can change their own username, but can I have my username as Marill? MarilLena, it feels like I've grown out of it.. plus everyone kept spelling it wrong. People still call me Marril :(

The show was lame but harmless.
Eh so it is lmao.. I dont think I'll be watching anymore *continues writing death threat to new James VA*

Really? Which one? Because I didn't have Colosseum till last week.

Both. I got XD first, bought my own Game Cube weeks later (I only played it at my mam's at the weekends) and played it for 2 days straight :shock: Once I was nearly done with it I got Colosseum. What did you name your hero and his stalker, I stupidly named them James and Jessie ha.

I haven't had a chance to really play around with Colosseum, unfortunately. It's something I'll need to look into, I think.
My advice is don't if you have any kind of life (unlike me), it's really addictive :)

It was one of the two Mewtwo ones. There was another, unnumbered one featuring Mewtwo later on as well.
Personally, my favorite movie was the second one...I still watch the show occasionally, too.
...Which Voyagers joke? I don't see anything in part 7.
The second one's easily the best, but I do want to get my hands on the eighth one when it's released, it looks bloody brilliant compared to movies 3 - 7 ha.

Voyagers? I think it was part 5, I was in it.. my last line was something like "who wants to play Colosseum?' At the time I didn't have it, and I sighed thinking 'you should of said Emerald' ^_^

[Zeke]

Of course! You said "last" so I looked in Part 7, and didn't think to check the one you were actually in. As for my characters, I always name myself Zeke or (for variation) Zero, and this time I picked Zero... so naturally I had to name my "stalker" Ciel. (That's a Mega Man Zero reference if you haven't played it.) It beats my years-old Gold game, where I'm Zeke and my female-looking but actually male rival is Kira....

By the way, in the rare games (so far just one) where I play as a girl, I go with Zelda. She never gets to be the star.

Oh, and I will change your name. It's actually quite easy.

[Marill]

Lol poor Kira. In my later restarts I called my Gold/Crystal/Silver (and Leaf Green) rival rude words so people would say stuff like "that Crap guy beat me at a match" or something. Too bad you can't name your rival in Ruby/Sapphire. I think my catridge version of Silver was the B/female dog word - until the save got erased.

Has anyone tried Pokemon Channel on the Game Cube. The European version is supposed to contain Jirachi but the game looks terrible, Jirachi itself is not work £10

Oh, and I will change your name. It's actually quite easy.
Thanks muchly :lol:

[PointyHairedJedi]

I always used Dexter/Madark myself, but that was back when Dexter's Lab was still, y'know, good.