April 1 (Z5MV)

[Zeke]

<p>You know that cancellation problem I was talking about yesterday? I've solved it -- by creating a monster. Welcome to <b>Zombie FiveMinute.net</b>!
<p>See, here's my reasoning. Shows that are cancelled are basically dead. Now if there's one thing I've learned from horror movies, it's that <i>any</i> idiot can bring back the dead, just not in any way they'll like. But that would be the case anyway, because what show would want to be resurrected on the internet instead of TV? It fits like a <i>glove</i>, I tell you.
<p>This is the answer to all our problems. When a good show is cancelled, we just bring it back as a zombie here at Z5M.net. It gets a new lease on a shambling mockery of life, we get to watch it shamble, and if the occasional viewer's brain is eaten, we'll still be doing better than reality shows, right? Best of all, I already have a head start with the VVS8 and 9 fivers!
<p>So keep watching the front page, because more of those links will start lighting up. Until then, BRAAAAIIINS!

[MaverickZer0]

Not bad.

Though there are only special pics and no actual zombie fivers so far, this is an actual good idea.

How long's it going to last?

[Zeke]

Until its head is chopped off and its brain is destroyed, most likely.

By the way, are you suggesting that making up an evil clone of myself and having him make some irrelevant changes to the site, then taking two weeks to change it back, was a bad idea?

[Hejira]

THIS IS MY STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!

...ahem.

[MaverickZer0]

No. It was a kind of funny idea. I'm not sure anyone takes Zuke seriously anymore, though. He chose a rather terrible day for his takeover.

[Nate the Great]

A very old comic from A Modest Destiny comes to mind. "Brain for eat, not for think." That's Zombie Bob for you.

It would've been nice to recruit some of the more established fivists to create a Zombie TOS fiver, a Zombie TNG fiver, and so on, though. Everyone as zombies!

[AKAArzosah]

Is 'brainth' even a word?

BTW Zeke, when my Mum has me committed you're paying the Loony Bin fees. She's giving me funny looks as I sit here laughing hysterically.

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Brain and brain, what is brain?

[Nate the Great]

I suppose that one was inevitable.

[Sa'ar Chasm]

I'm surprised it took that long.

Must have been kinetically unfavourable, despite being thermodynamically favourable.

[Nate the Great]

"Now, see, I understood that. Where did all those Saturday nights go?"
--Rodney McKay.

This has become my default response whenever someone starts into the technobabble and I don't get confused.

[Zeke]

I'm surprised it took that long.

It didn't. (http://community.livejournal.com/5mv/44084.html)

[Sa'ar Chasm]

I was on a bus April 1st. Leave me alone. :P

[Nate the Great]

What were you doing on a bus? Heading off to some tropical Spring Break destination?

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Coming home from a job interview at a college on the Lower Mainland. I haven't been a student since last fall (despite my student ID still technically being valid - I managed to score a student rate on the bus tickets).

Now I'm waiting for the phone to ring regarding the success of said interview.

*glares at phone*

[Nate the Great]

(Puts sunglasses on the phone to protect it from the glare)

....


....


What?

[PointyHairedJedi]

Zombies, eh? It's not so bad I suppose - at the very least the tax situation is fantastic.

[Nate the Great]

Let me put on my bulletproof vest...

Okay, I'll bite. Tax situation?

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Spending a year dead for tax purposes.

*zaps I^2 with phaser in spot not covered by bullet-proof vest*

[Nate the Great]

Ah man! I missed the Hotblack Desiato reference? I'm ashamed. Just to clarify, that's not a joke. I really am!

I^2 is better than II, but seriously...are "NTG" or "Nate" absolutely impossible to type in basically the same amount of time?

Oh, and is there some combination of keys that will spit out an infinity symbol? You know, like umlouts or squiggly n's?

[Sa'ar Chasm]

(><)

[Nate the Great]

That's not an infinity symbol, that's:

A bow tie.
A dead cartoon character's eyes.
A dumbbell.

[ijdgaf]

∞

[Nate the Great]

Show-off.

[Sa'ar Chasm]

In my day, we didn't have these fancy-schmancy high-ASCII characters, We had what was on the keyboard, and we made do.

You kids today with your umlauts and your copyrights and your fractions-squeezed-into-one-character...bah!

*wanders off, muttering to self*

[Nate the Great]

And you are how old?

If we're going to start stories of the beginning of the computer revolution, a lot of bad feelings will result. I remember DOS. I remember Applie IIe's, when programs ran right off of floppies (and a megabyte was a LOT of memory) and games were about gameplay, not graphics. Oh, those were the days...

[Hejira]

I remember when I was five or six, my mum was programming on the Commodore 64. CASSETTE TAPES, DUDE, CASSETTE TAPES!

[Zeke]

When I was just a little older, I was programming on my C64. God, I loved that machine. (It's no coincidence that I chose Commodore as my "rank.")

[PointyHairedJedi]

Just as a thought, does this mean that Alec Guinness will be making a guest appearance?

[Nate the Great]

Well, I can't claim any usage of the C64, but I still get warm fuzzies about the Apple IIe. That was the way to go. Programs on floppies. They ran right off the disk, and if the disk got corrupted, throw it out and take out another one.

Cassette tapes? Hopefully you don't mean audio tapes.

Quick poll. How many DOS commands can everyone rattle off the tops of their heads?

[Zeke]

Just as a thought, does this mean that Alec Guiness will be making a guest appearance?

Probably not. Maybe Ed Wood, though.

[PointyHairedJedi]

Quick poll. How many DOS commands can everyone rattle off the tops of their heads?
One. Which is strange, given that I used to play the likes of Theme Park, Civ and Monkey Island through DOS (though Civ was a CD-ROM re-release, so I don't think I get any cred for that really).

[Nate the Great]

Okay, let's see...

cd
cd\
dir
dir/w

I guess that's it.

[Gatac]

Without looking things up...

md
rd
dir
edit
type
deltree
echo
del
format
fdisk

And, of course...

win

That'd be pretty much 95% of everything I ever did under DOS and via DOS shell in Windows. (Of course, I remember a hell of a lot of options and tricks for those, too, but I felt it would be cheating to list them all seperately.)

Gatac

[Sa'ar Chasm]

> C/
> C/windows
> C/windows/run
> Run/dammit/run

[Derek]

I still use DOS. Or at least I use "Command Prompt" on my Windows computers. 'dir' and 'cd' are the main ones I use from the command shell. And I use the command prompt all the time on my linux computers.

Gatac's list is good, but there's a great DOS command he didn't list: 'rem.' It's 'echo' without the output! Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty rem:

c:\> rem
c:\> rem help
c:\> rem quit
c:\> rem exit
c:\> rem bye
c:\> rem hello?
c:\> rem eat flaming death
c:\> rem ^C
c:\> rem ^C
c:\> rem ^D
c:\> rem

---
Note the consistent command flags and error reportage. Rem is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.

(Okay, I started borrowing from The Ed man joke page (http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html) at the end there.)

[Zeke]

On our family's DOS computers, a 386 and later a 486, I actually didn't use the built-in commands a lot because I made my own .bat files. k was Commander Keen, j was Jill of the Jungle, and so on. It was also on those computers that I learned how to program in C. My crowning achievement was a simple Windows facsimile I made from scratch -- it couldn't do much, but it had graphical icons for starting programs. I called it WinDOS.

I still use the Command Prompt for one important thing: a program I wrote years ago called 5mv.exe. It takes a fiver and formats it for HTML. (By the way, I've found out there are two command prompts available from the Run dialog box: "command" and "cmd". The latter is the one you want, as it has more features.)

And, of course...

win

DOS for the win?

[Nate the Great]

Jill of the Jungle! Awesome! You have to love those, especially when they (the Epic people) made fun of the Apogee heroes and called Commander Keen "yesterday's news."

Okay, so I knew about win, format, and fdisk too.

[Gatac]

And DuckTales, too.

Then again, we had some good times on the Commodore 64, too...ah, Turrican.

Gatac

[Nate the Great]

Ducktales? Great show, but I found the game weird. Using a wooden cane as a pogo stick? Bouncing on rocks to turn them into gemstones?

[MaverickZer0]

Effing awesome. Other people played Jill of the Jungle. I still have the floppy somewhere, I could probably boot it and Worms and Lemmings up on my old '95 and go retro.

[Nate the Great]

Not only have I played Jill of the Jungle, I've played Xargon!

I had a Worms clone on my TI-85 once upon a time. Good game.

[Derek]

Jill of the Jungle was great. I also played Star Control 1 & 2 and Cmdr Keen 1-4. And tons and tons of other games.

Whatever happened to those fun old DOS games?

[Nate the Great]

You actually had a registered version of Invasion of the Vorticons? I'd say "awesome," but that hardly does it justice. :)

I know where my old DOS games are. They're all sitting inside one of my Zip discs (all of them :), those old games are REALLY tiny) waiting for me to play them.

[Chancellor Valium]

The original Prince of Persia is brilliant.

[Nate the Great]

What's brilliant? The plot, the gameplay, or the multimedia experience?

[Chancellor Valium]

The whole yackenilchi. The plot is magnificently B-movie-esque, the music is wonderfully painful, and it is the second most addictive game in the universe (the first being Tetris).

[Nate the Great]

"Magnificently B-movie-esque."

I can understand that. I have great fondness for modern B-movies, especially because they aren't pretending to be epic masterpieces (read: LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars prequels). Looking at my video shelf right now, I can see the following wonderfully enjoyable and joyfully painful B-movies:

A Knight's Tale
Kate and Leopold
The Avengers
and many more

[Gatac]

The Avengers? As in, the remake movie? And yet you take issue with Casino Royale?

What are you doing right that every film critic is doing wrong?

Gatac

[Derek]

Honestly, I liked the Avengers movie as well. Not enough to own, but I found it fun and funny.

And I didn't find CR to be as wonderful as everyone says, though I freely admit that the reason for that is that I watched it well after I'd heard everyone's hype and went in expecting something different than what I got.

And Prince of Persia was great. A one hour time limit for the entire game was a great idea that worked well for it. Also, the many deaths of the protagonist were a lot of fun.

[Nate the Great]

Yes, the remake! And yes, I take issue with Casino Royale!

Okay, let's look at this sensibly. Can we all agree that Casino Royale is supposed to be a reboot along the lines of Batman Begins? Just chuck the faulty assembly line process and start over.

Avengers is not a reboot. It's a remake. They're different. Avengers was able to make fun of itself and did so without revervation. They weren't afraid to insult the cliches of the genre. Besides, Avengers was clearly set in a parallel universe, just like Agent Cody Banks. We were never meant to take it seriously.

Casino Royale is a reboot. They said "everything that comes before never happened." We were clearly supposed to take it seriously.

Critics operate on different procedures. Fanwankery is NEVER supposed to play a role in what they do. Against union rules, so to speak. Critics are trained to look at Casino Royale as a spy movie, as it's own entity, nothing more. I can't do that, and I wouldn't if I could. I'm a pigheaded lout, conceded.