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FatMatDuhRat
07-04-2003, 04:58 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]This quesiton is mainly for [b:post_uid0]Zeke,[/b:post_uid0] but I guess that
everyone else can contribute some ideas about it
too.
:D
I just wanna know, are there ever going to be any
types of [b:post_uid0]5MV T-shirts[/b:post_uid0] made available to all us
ravenous fans out here roaming around the world?
:p
I'd like to see the big red word [b:post_uid0]"FIVER"[/b:post_uid0] written
across the chest and the website on the back.
Maybe just take a pic of the home page and then
print that out, or write the phrase "Life is short,
so should comedy be."
:dead:
Ok, never mind that last part about the phrase...
but what about making some apparel for us to
wear, eh?[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-04-2003, 05:10 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]:D Â I [b:post_uid0][i:post_uid0]love[/i:post_uid0][/b:post_uid0] that idea, FatMat, but I doubt it'll happen. For one thing, this is a not-for-money-period site, and Paramount would come down on Zeke if he tried to sell anything related to the site. Doesn't mean we can't wish though. ;)

When I saw the title of this thread, what popped into my mind was a picture of someone wearing a black T-shirt with the basic white-wedge-in-a-red-circle logo on the chest. I suppose the textual logo would then be on the back, about where a baseball player would have his name.[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
07-04-2003, 05:29 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]What's to stop you from buying some of that printer-transfer stuff and printing off the logo (or whatever you wanted)? As far as I know it's really not that expensive, though I'm not sure if the transfers survive that well over a long persiod of time.[/color:post_uid0]

Kira
07-04-2003, 05:52 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="PointyHairedJedi"]What's to stop you from buying some of that printer-transfer stuff and printing off the logo (or whatever you wanted)?[/quote:post_uid0]
My giant hoard of lawyers. ;)

(Incidentally, there *have* been plans to get some 5MV merchandise out there. Â Think four-letter words beginning with "s" and ending with "oon".)[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-04-2003, 05:59 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Think four-letter words beginning with "s" and ending with "oon".[/quote:post_uid0]

Spoon?

(2+2=5)[/color:post_uid0]

Katy Jane
07-04-2003, 06:22 PM
[quote:post_uid0="Kira"][color=#000000:post_uid0](Incidentally, there *have* been plans to get some 5MV merchandise out there. Â Think four-letter words beginning with "s" and ending with "oon".)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]some how i knew that would be the answer ;)[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-04-2003, 06:49 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Spoon?[/quote:post_uid0]
[i:post_uid0]There is no p[/i:post_uid0] :p[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-04-2003, 07:48 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]^ :lol: Good one, catalina!


[quote:post_uid0="PointyHairedJedi"]What's to stop you from buying some of that printer-transfer stuff and printing off the logo (or whatever you wanted)?[/quote:post_uid0]

My inherent laziness and ineptness in all things ironing. ;)


I'm envisioning a series of T-shirts not unlike that for [i:post_uid0]The Far Side[/i:post_uid0], with an amusing combination of a word bubble containing a classic line or two from a fiver, and a screen capture featuring the speaker(s). I'm simultaneously proving yet again that I am easily amused. :D[/color:post_uid0]

FatMatDuhRat
07-05-2003, 02:25 AM
[quote:post_uid0="catalina_marina"][color=#000000:post_uid0][i:post_uid0]There is no p[/i:post_uid0] :p[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Maybe that could be printed on the back of the shirt.
:D :p[/color:post_uid0]

NeoMatrix
07-05-2003, 05:34 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well whenever how "soon" is, it could say, "Trek is long, 5MV is short", or "Life is short, Trek is long: Got 5MV?"[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
07-05-2003, 05:16 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]"Just Five It" would be a good one, but you'd probably end up getting your ass sued off by Nike.[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-05-2003, 09:27 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]That'd take a lot of suing. ;)[/color:post_uid0]

Zeke
07-05-2003, 09:31 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Actually, not only have 5MV shirts been planned, but the "store" is already online. Â However, the site I'm with -- CafePress -- is in the middle of making some controversial policy changes that may ultimately force me to find another site, so I haven't made the link available yet. Â I'll keep you posted.[/color:post_uid0]

FatMatDuhRat
07-06-2003, 01:35 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][b:post_uid0]*shivers uncontrollably in anticipation*[/b:post_uid0]
:smile: :dead:
(Which is kinda hard to do considering that I'm living
in Florida and it's 99 degrees down here every day.)[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
07-06-2003, 01:54 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]99 degrees....?

I'll overlook the fact that that's in Fahrenheit, and just be insanely jealous instead.[/color:post_uid0]

Zeke
07-06-2003, 02:08 AM
[quote:post_uid0="PointyHairedJedi"][color=#000000:post_uid0]I'll overlook the fact that that's in Fahrenheit[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Generous of you, O Almighty Duke of What Units of Measurement People Are Allowed to Use.[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-06-2003, 02:16 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]He's just jealous because Fahrenheit is actually more precise, per digit, than Celsius. :p   ;)[/color:post_uid0]

mudshark
07-06-2003, 03:30 AM
[quote:post_uid0="FatMat426"][color=#000000:post_uid0](Which is kinda hard to do considering that I'm living
in Florida and it's 99 degrees down here every day.)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Florida? :S Wha'ppen?[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-06-2003, 02:01 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]I'll overlook the fact that that's in Fahrenheit, and just be insanely jealous instead.[/quote:post_uid0]
You can be jealous about 99 degrees, if it were really 99 degrees, you wouldn't [i:post_uid0]be[/i:post_uid0].

[quote:post_uid0]He's just jealous because Fahrenheit is actually more precise, per digit, than Celsius.[/quote:post_uid0]
But it's easier to convert Celsius to Kelvin than it is to convert Fahrenheit to Kelvin, so we win. :D[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
07-06-2003, 02:59 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Generous of you, O Almighty Duke of What Units of Measurement People Are Allowed to Use.[/quote:post_uid0]

Glad to see I'm getting some recognition at last.

[quote:post_uid0]But it's easier to convert Celsius to Kelvin than it is to convert Fahrenheit to Kelvin, so we win.[/quote:post_uid0]

Kelvin was a very cool bloke indeed.[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-06-2003, 07:01 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="catalina_marina"][quote:post_uid0]I'll overlook the fact that that's in Fahrenheit, and just be insanely jealous instead.[/quote:post_uid0]
You can be jealous about 99 degrees, if it were really 99 degrees, you wouldn't [i:post_uid0]be[/i:post_uid0].

[quote:post_uid0]He's just jealous because Fahrenheit is actually more precise, per digit, than Celsius.[/quote:post_uid0]
But it's easier to convert Celsius to Kelvin than it is to convert Fahrenheit to Kelvin, so we win. :D[/quote:post_uid0]
:lol:

I could make up a pair of temperature scales based on Fahrenheit that merely involved setting a different zero, and then Fahrenheit would be better on that score. :smile: Let's see, there can be the [b:post_uid0]Marina[/b:post_uid0], with its zero at the freezing point (putting 180 at the boiling point and making it blindingly obvious that Fahrenheit [i:post_uid0]is[/i:post_uid0] more precise than Celsius, plus the conversion to Celsius and back is easier), and the [b:post_uid0]Saxamaphone[/b:post_uid0], in which zero is set at "absolute zero" (simplifying the conversion to Kelvin and back).[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
07-06-2003, 07:20 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]You know, I think they might just catch on.[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-06-2003, 07:21 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]He's just jealous because Fahrenheit is actually more precise, per digit, than Celsius.[/quote:post_uid0]

But Celcius is based on something that can be easily checked, rather than the body temperature of a guy who's been dead for over a century or weather conditions that no longer exist thanks to global warming (or possibly just a natural change in climate patterns).

Silly Foreignheat.[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-06-2003, 11:11 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"][quote:post_uid0]He's just jealous because Fahrenheit is actually more precise, per digit, than Celsius.[/quote:post_uid0]

But Celcius is based on something that can be easily checked, rather than the body temperature of a guy who's been dead for over a century or weather conditions that no longer exist thanks to global warming (or possibly just a natural change in climate patterns).[/quote:post_uid0]
There's a one-to-one function that accurately relates temperature in F to temperature in C, so one temperature scale is just as stable (or unstable) as the other. ;)



Back to the original topic: I would pay good money (assuming I had money) to see this scene from "The Trouble With Tribbles" portrayed well on a T-shirt (not because it's so hilarious, but because I think it would translate well to a picture):
[quote:post_uid0]Kirk: You must've gotten a bootleg script with some tentative title! Ha! That's how you saw this episode so early....
Spock: Not so...now if you need me, I'll be in my quarters deleting the evidence from my hard drive.[/quote:post_uid0]

With Spock in the process of getting up from his seat, and Kirk in the background grinning fit to burst. :D[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-06-2003, 11:49 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]There's a one-to-one function that accurately relates temperature in F to temperature in C, so one temperature scale is just as stable (or unstable) as the other.[/quote:post_uid0]

But those Foreignheat values can't be independently verified. Celcius can. You can take a pan of distilled water down to sea level, boil and freeze it (possibly in the reverse order) and calibrate a thermometer. You can't do that in F (the jokes wears thin after a while, and it's too long to type the proper way) because Dr F's body temperature is currently the same temperature as his coffin, and an average winter's day in Vienna is not the same now as it was in 18-whatever.[/color:post_uid0]

MmeBlueberry
07-07-2003, 02:35 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="NAHTMMM"]Back to the original topic: [/quote:post_uid0]
Is that allowed?[/color:post_uid0]

taya17
07-07-2003, 03:12 AM
[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"][color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Think four-letter words beginning with "s" and ending with "oon".[/quote:post_uid0]

Spoon?

(2+2=5)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]"There is no spoon, it is you who bends."



And you can argue about Celsius and Farenheit all you want, I'm sticking with Kelvin :P :heheh:[/color:post_uid0]

Katy Jane
07-07-2003, 03:32 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="MmeBlueberry"][quote:post_uid0="NAHTMMM"]Back to the original topic: [/quote:post_uid0]
Is that allowed?[/quote:post_uid0]
come to think of it its not. Arrest that man!



Edit to remove extra explanation points.[/color:post_uid0]

taya17
07-07-2003, 03:37 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Yes he's broken the 47th Commandment! "Thou shalt not bring forum topics back on track."


He Must Pay![/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-07-2003, 02:22 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Therefor:
[quote:post_uid0]And you can argue about Celsius and Farenheit all you want, I'm sticking with Kelvin :P :heheh:[/quote:post_uid0]
Kelvin is the only one where point zero actually makes sense. Of course, the scale doesn't, but who cares? And I think Kelvin is international.[/color:post_uid0]

NAHTMMM
07-07-2003, 02:24 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"]But those Foreignheat values can't be independently verified. Â Celcius can. Â You can take a pan of distilled water down to sea level, boil and freeze it (possibly in the reverse order) and calibrate a thermometer. Â You can't do that in F (the jokes wears thin after a while, and it's too long to type the proper way) because Dr F's body temperature is currently the same temperature as his coffin, and an average winter's day in Vienna is not the same now as it was in 18-whatever.[/quote:post_uid0]
All I can say is that it seems to me that you place great faith in the thermometer's ability to tell a 0 from a 32. :smile: Â ;)[/color:post_uid0]

taya17
07-10-2003, 06:18 AM
[quote:post_uid0="catalina_marina"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Kelvin is the only one where point zero actually makes sense. Of course, the scale doesn't, but who cares? And I think Kelvin is international.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Try "universal". It's an empirical scale so it should apply anywhere in the universe.....[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-10-2003, 09:38 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]They all apply anywhere in the universe, but everyone knows Kelvin. I for one have no idea how Fahrenheit works, and I know there are a lot of people out there who think the same of Celsius.[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-10-2003, 04:42 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]They all apply anywhere in the universe, but everyone knows Kelvin. I for one have no idea how Fahrenheit works, and I know there are a lot of people out there who think the same of Celsius.[/quote:post_uid0]

So there are Dutch weather forecasts that go "Tomorrow will be a balmy 298 degrees..."? Â (spoken in Dutch, obviously)[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-10-2003, 04:59 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]:O

Er, no, they always go in Celsius. And they say it is, like 25 degrees Celsius.
And if someone talks about Kelvin, they probably tell you that too. Like, we have this wonderful book of tables called [i:post_uid0]Binas[/i:post_uid0] (basically used for chemistry). Every temperature there is in Kelvin, obviously, but at every table concerning temperatures, it says at the top it's in Kelvin.[/color:post_uid0]

entei
07-11-2003, 08:46 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hmm... Am I the only one who still measures temperatures as either 'Hot', 'Warm' or 'Cold'? Any other temperature is then measured relatively as either 'warmer' or 'colder'. These piffling primitive ideas of mine. Â :D

[quote:post_uid0]I'd like to see the big red word "FIVER" written
across the chest and the website on the back.[/quote:post_uid0]

I already have a shirt with 'Fiver' on the front, but that's a different story. Â ;)[/color:post_uid0]

FatMatDuhRat
07-12-2003, 03:12 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I like singing random songs inside my head throughout
the day when I'm at work. It helps to keep me sane.
:D
Speaking of sane, I like the fact that [b:post_uid0]entei[/b:post_uid0] actually
managed to get the thread back on topic. Let's see
how long it lasts.

[b:post_uid0]*looks at digital watch & begins counting the seconds*[/b:post_uid0][/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-12-2003, 04:32 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]I like the fact that entei actually
managed to get the thread back on topic.[/quote:post_uid0]
That's incredible! How did you do it entei? :D

Allright, stupid question. But it's still amazing.[/color:post_uid0]

Kira
07-12-2003, 04:39 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="catalina_marina"]Kelvin is the only one where point zero actually makes sense.[/quote:post_uid0]
Um... how does making zero the freezing point of water (and 100 the boiling point of water) not make sense? Â If it's below zero, you get snow... above zero, you get rain.

However, the United States should be proud to join the likes of Liberia and Myanmar in not adopting the metric system like the rest of the planet. :D[/color:post_uid0]

entei
07-12-2003, 04:55 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="FatMat426"]Speaking of sane, I like the fact that [b:post_uid0]entei[/b:post_uid0] actually
managed to get the thread back on topic.[/quote:post_uid0]
Aww... did you have to say that Fatmat? I was quite attached to this neck. Â ;)[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-12-2003, 05:10 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well, maybe Celsius makes a [i:post_uid0]little[/i:post_uid0] sense. If it's above zero, you don't always get rain. But the snow melts as soon as it hits the ground.[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-12-2003, 09:37 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Then you get slush.

It's July twelfth and there's no sun at all, right now. That weird, all-over grey-white lighting typical of heavy cloud cover.[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-12-2003, 09:53 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Then you get slush.[/quote:post_uid0]
Learned another English word. :D

It's July twelfth and there's no sun at all, right now. That weird, all-over dark-blackish darkness typical of heavy earth cover. :p
May be because it's night. ;)[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-13-2003, 12:02 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Sleet may be a better word. ;)

I learnt a new english word recently! "Berk." ;)[/color:post_uid0]

mudshark
07-13-2003, 12:08 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]... frequently preceded by the word "bloody". ;)[/color:post_uid0]

taya17
07-13-2003, 03:21 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]new words! ooh!
bloody berk!
:runs:[/color:post_uid0]

Katy Jane
07-13-2003, 05:05 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Aw yes, good old sleet, or freezing rain as we generally call it round here, you get sleet if its just be low 0c too, only then it freezes to the roads and causes a whole lot of trouble. I will always remember the day the bus got stuck and someone had to give everyone rides home on a snowmobile. Normally this would have been fun but not when you're being pelted in the face with little chunks of ice and water.[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-13-2003, 06:47 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Ooh, know what you mean.

Ever driven over a mountain pass through a cloud with the window open?

Would-be rain is still crystallized.

Ouchie.[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-13-2003, 10:45 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]you get sleet if its just be low 0c too, only then it freezes to the roads and causes a whole lot of trouble.[/quote:post_uid0]
:O
English is such a weird language.[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-13-2003, 06:08 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Yesterday it was July 12th, not a cloud in the sky, scorching heat (30 degrees or so). Summer in Kelowna.

Today I go back to Vancouver, where it rained.

[quote:post_uid0]English is such a weird language.[/quote:post_uid0]

That's an understatement. It's what you get when you combine German and French, let stand for a millenium and remove any sort of grammatical order.

Another English word I'm fond of is "git," frequently preceded by "stupid" (pron. stchewpid, more or less).[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-13-2003, 06:50 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Another English word I'm fond of is "git," [/quote:post_uid0]
One word [i:post_uid0]I'm[/i:post_uid0] fond of is dictionary. At hand-reach. Too bad not all words are in it.

That old English is actually kind of understandable. It sounds a little like Dutch, although I wouldn't understand half of it... But then, I wouldn't understand half of the Dutch of the same time either.[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-14-2003, 05:54 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]That old English is actually kind of understandable. It sounds a little like Dutch, although I wouldn't understand half of it... But then, I wouldn't understand half of the Dutch of the same time either.[/quote:post_uid0]

Well, Dutch is the closest living language to English (closest dead language is Frisian).[/color:post_uid0]

Kodu
07-14-2003, 07:13 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"]Well, Dutch is the closest living language to English (closest dead language is Frisian).[/quote:post_uid0]
from dictionary.com:
[quote:post_uid0]Fri·sian   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (frzhn, frzhn) also Frie·sian (frzhn)
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of the Frisian Islands or Friesland.
2. The West Germanic language of the Frisians. It is the language most closely related to English.[/quote:post_uid0]
and:
[quote:post_uid0]dead language
n.
A language, such as Latin, that is no longer learned as a native language by a speech community.[/quote:post_uid0]

[img:post_uid0]http://boards1.wizards.com/images/smilies/teach.gif[/img:post_uid0] Friesland is a province of the Netherlands and Frisian is, alongside Dutch, still their native language.
So, according to these definitions, Frisian is not a dead language. Â :p[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-14-2003, 08:13 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Pedantry is only fun when it's outgoing.[/color:post_uid0]

Katy Jane
07-15-2003, 12:55 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]heehee i like the prof. smiley[/color:post_uid0]

AKAArzosah
07-22-2003, 09:50 AM
[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"][color=#000000:post_uid0]...frequently preceded by "stupid" (pron. stchewpid, more or less).[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]how else is stupid pronounced?[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-22-2003, 11:46 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]According to my dictionary:
[quote:post_uid0][b:post_uid0]stupid[/b:post_uid0] ['stju(:)pid][/quote:post_uid0]
Personally, I'd loose the j.[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-22-2003, 06:07 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]how else is stupid pronounced?[/quote:post_uid0]

'Round these parts it's stoo-pid.[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-22-2003, 08:38 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]And the less fastidious about spelling often spell it "stoopid."

Or worse, "st00pid".[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-22-2003, 08:59 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]A lesser form of leet... :dead:[/color:post_uid0]

Sa'ar Chasm
07-22-2003, 09:12 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]A lesser form of leet...[/quote:post_uid0]

It's called "illiteracy."[/color:post_uid0]

catalina_marina
07-22-2003, 09:15 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Leet, illiteracy... ;) But a lesser form nevertheless.[/color:post_uid0]

Nan
07-22-2003, 09:31 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Mostly evil, either way.[/color:post_uid0]

danieldoof
03-29-2005, 03:48 PM
uuhhh usually I do not revive old freds but this one sound very interesting......
I am very interesting in such a shirt

zeke I guess you made it yourself from some kind of image or so
maybe you can post the picture so we can all download it and make us a t-shirt ourselves

btw: I think it is not illegal if you only get paid for the costs you had making this shirt and sending it around.....

maybe we can chose a picture that everyone in this forum agrees on and then post it to download or so...

just a thought :wink:

Zeke
03-30-2005, 03:26 AM
It's funny you should bring this up, daniel (and don't worry about thread necromancy -- it's okay when you have something relevant to say). See, right now I'm having severe money problems, and I've been wondering if it's finally time to try and get some extra income from this site, at least for a while. I could just post my PayPal button, but I wouldn't feel right taking "charity"; I'd much rather be a vendor than a beggar. So I've been giving serious thought to finally getting that T-shirt thing off the ground.

What I'm going to do is find out what it would take to set that up on my own, without going through CafePress (they take such a massive cut of the profits that I would have to charge through the roof to make anything substantial). If it looks like a realistic possibility, I'll run a poll on what products you guys would be up for, and make some sample images for your consideration. The images will take some careful design, since I can't use anything trademarked by Paramount -- fair use only protects stuff I don't make money from. The clock logo (../images/clock.png) is all mine and represents the site nicely, so it'll probably be the centerpiece of these designs.

In the meantime, why don't we use this thread for brainstorming? The more I hear from you guys about this, the better I'll be able to judge how to do it. Ideas? Suggestions? Pie?

NAHTMMM
03-30-2005, 04:04 AM
I probably mentioned this at some point before, but yeah, CafePress apparently doesn't do apparel very well anyway :?.


Unfortunately I don't have any online money account for the foreseeable future :(, but if I did, I think I'd be more interested in getting a mug or something than a T-shirt.



:idea:

Oh, what about a small book or something of the sort? It could be a textual version of the spiffified DVDs you were going to release according to one of the TJIs ;). No, wait, that would probably violate--well, would it violate "fair use"? I don't know...:? Well, it could also be other "original" new material or something. Hmmm...


[edit]Ooo, "pie"? There you go, a 5MV cookbook! :lol: Fifteen pie recipes and four chili recipes...all vegetarian, hopefully. :shock:

NAHTMMM
03-30-2005, 04:25 AM
A group I've been involved with does business with this company (http://www.whitehallprinting.com/index.htm). Apparently they're about the cheapest the group can find. I don't know if they have a minimum order requirement or anything--if they do, it's no more than 3 digits--but in my experience their books stay in one piece, even if the image reproduction on the inside pages isn't so hot. ;)

Katy Jane
03-30-2005, 04:33 AM
I did a 5MV t-shirt in Animal Crossing. :D I would defintly like to buy one. At the moment, i don't have much for ideas :(

KillerGodMan
03-30-2005, 11:46 AM
What if we used Pointy's "The fivers must flow" banner?

Or, what if we made a collage of all the E-trektion banners?

Opium
03-30-2005, 11:58 AM
What if we used Pointy's "The fivers must flow" banner?

Or, what if we made a collage of all the E-trektion banners?

How about first something done with the E-trektion stuff? I know, I know, soon...

I like NAHTMMM's idea for a pie and chilli cookbook. mmm...jello.

PointyHairedJedi
03-30-2005, 01:53 PM
Hey, a book would be cool! If you coulnd't put any of the fivers in it though, I'm not sure there would be enough "other" material to justify it.

How about t-shirts with excerpts from fivers on them? And just as a random thought - my 'fivers' banner would make a nice bookmark.

NAHTMMM
03-30-2005, 02:31 PM
Some years ago, there was a book published that purported to illustrate the way to have effective leadership using Captain Picard as an example, right? I think it was titled "Make It So" or something...:?



Anyway, Zeke could dash off a short booklet detailing the pitfalls and tricks to effective time management. It could be titled "Make It Soon". ;)

danieldoof
03-30-2005, 03:48 PM
Anyway, Zeke could dash off a short booklet detailing the pitfalls and tricks to effective time management. It could be titled "Make It Soon". ;)

that is a good idea :D

what about some mug or t-shirt with the clock logo and the word SOON (or 5()()/\/) below....or something like that

also the idea with our favourite fiver parts is not bad at all 8)

Chancellor Valium
03-30-2005, 04:43 PM
Ooo! How's about a large 5MV clock, with voyager flying from the centre central, other ship/craft representing other programmes/films fived flying out surrounding it? With something like more popular than the celestial home-care omnibus underneath in italics on a black background?

danieldoof
04-03-2005, 08:43 PM
got another idea...

what about the clock logo and below: I am a dsokdpache



or whatever the singular is :wink:

Chancellor Valium
04-03-2005, 08:45 PM
How about spock, holding a pie out, saying
"Live long, and eat pie"?

Zeke
04-03-2005, 09:04 PM
Valium, I think you misunderstood part of my post. I can't use anything Paramount holds a copyright on -- that includes all the Trek ships, and the likenesses of characters such as Spock.

Anonymous
04-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Does Paramount hold the copywright on the word Trek?

Because I like the saying "Because life is short and Trek is long." I think the saying would look really good on a t-shirt or a cup.

stripysox
04-03-2005, 09:38 PM
Personaly. I think just a simple t-shirt with a small version of the clock logo on the breast and the website on the back would be good. It's a simple image so it would be easy to reproduce.

The best thing about t-shirts is that you can identify people. Imagine walking down the raod and suddenly you see someone wearing a 5MV t-shirt. I would definately buy one!

One thing though, if you do make t-shirts you should do fitted ladys ones as well as the classic t-shape.

KillerGodMan
04-04-2005, 12:08 AM
What about the 5MV clock with Five Minute Voyager on it?

and maybe; under it; daniel's "I am a dsokdpache" idea?

And on the back: the site's URL and under it the 5MV logo, like JD suggested, (providing Trek isn't copywrited)?

And what about sweat-shirts and sweaters?

NAHTMMM
04-04-2005, 02:35 AM
"Dsokdpach" is, I believe, borrowed from a webcomic. So it really shouldn't be used.



The good news is I may find myself in a position to buy something of some sort after all. :)

Kira
04-04-2005, 04:59 AM
"Dsokdpach" is a non-word invented by Zeke for a VVS9 episode.

You could say "Because life is short and sci-fi is long" to avoid copyright issues.

I'm not sure what the legal issues would be surrounding a book of some sort. When it's a parody, you might be able to get away with more, although you'd probably still have to avoid using the images.

Anonymous
04-04-2005, 07:53 PM
Especially the ones of Zeke wearingnothing but Burmuda shorts and a fake beard.

Oh wait, you're not supposed to know about those....

Forget I said anything.

NAHTMMM
04-06-2005, 08:12 PM
FWIW, I have seen a Homestar bumper sticker or two around... ;)

Zeke
04-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Homestar Runner is in a whole other league from 5MV. They were referenced in the Buffy finale, for Pete's sake. I'm not entertaining any hopes that -- oh, wait. You were just suggesting bumper stickers as a possible item, weren't you?

Katy Jane
04-08-2005, 02:47 PM
I have an idea! What was Latin phrase i heard Zeke mention once, Vidi Vidi Contraxi or something like that, it meant "I came, I saw, I reduced to a consiterbly shorter length" or something. That would be cool on a t-shirt. :D

danieldoof
04-08-2005, 03:24 PM
mhmhmh
that is also a nice idea

NAHTMMM
04-08-2005, 06:01 PM
I'm not entertaining any hopes that -- oh, wait. You were just suggesting bumper stickers as a possible item, weren't you?

Well, yes. ;) Not that I would buy them, but they're a nice generic item along with T-shirts and the like that a lot of people could conceivably use :).



I dashed off something this morning (in MS Word and Paint, for the record). Originally I was going to suggest that something like it might be put on a coffee mug, but then I had a vision of bleary-eyed people staring at it as they prepared for the Real-Life commute that would take them to their Real-Life job and it seems to me that that would just be cruel and thoughtless. :cry: However, if this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Sloublues/5mw.png) were on a T-shirt, the person could wear it and then other people would have to look at it all day! :twisted:

PointyHairedJedi
04-08-2005, 06:30 PM
Hah, nice idea.

danieldoof
04-08-2005, 06:53 PM
@NAHTMMM
you forgot the pie :wink:

NAHTMMM
04-08-2005, 09:50 PM
I considered that, but decided to go with the argument that surely pie is worth taking the time to make the right way 8).

danieldoof
04-08-2005, 09:56 PM
truer words were never spoken :!:

(edith: I just realised that this also would give a great motto for a shirt)

NeoMatrix
04-09-2005, 04:45 AM
5MV: Take 5 minutes to have some pie

Kira
04-09-2005, 08:25 PM
Here (http://www.glarkware.com/securestore/c188252p16536606.2.html) is a good example of how to get around copyright and still be hilarious. Of course, Glarkware's TWoP shirts have made an art form out of copyright evasion. <g>

Zeke
04-10-2005, 05:48 PM
Ahh, Glarkware, home of some of the funniest shirts around (and some kinda lame ones, for variety). I've been planning to write them on the outside chance they'd be interested in working with 5MV the way they work with TWoP. I'll be shocked if they say yes, but there's no harm in trying. Sometimes a mistake to climb, always a mistake never to make the attempt, right, Neil?

Until recently, visiting Glarkware has been bittersweet for me, because by the time I finally had a credit card and could order stuff online, they had discontinued my desperately-longed-for "Kill All Humans" shirt. But lo and behold, it's still out there (http://www.whogivesashirt.ca/EM7501141.html)! This soothes my soul, and one day, when I have money again and beggars ride, I will finally fill that evil-robot-shaped hole in my life and wardrobe.

KillerGodMan
04-19-2005, 11:44 AM
^ever thought about ZeStuff?

Anywho, I had another idea;

The 5MV clock, and under it it says 5MV (because we can't use voyager)

And then, on the back, it says; "What? Were you expecting somting stupid like 6MV?

Zeke
04-19-2005, 02:17 PM
^ever thought about ZeStuff?

Hmm. I'd never been there until you mentioned it, but it looks like a decent setup. I'll inquire about the details -- how big a cut they take and such. I don't know if they'll be interested in working with 5MV, though. Compared to clients like 8-Bit Theatre and Ctrl+Alt+Del, we're small potatoes, and there is the whole Trek thing. The days when geeks (ZeStuff's target audience) could be assumed to like Trek are far behind us.

Your clock comment reminds me of my favourite product idea: a 5MV wall clock. If there's one object our logo ought to be stuck on, it's that. And as a matter of fact, custom wall clocks can be purchased in bulk just like T-shirts, with the added bonus that there's no sizing issue. Hmmm... that might be the perfect product to start us off.

PointyHairedJedi
04-19-2005, 09:37 PM
5MV watches would seriously rock. I'm sure it's a heck of a lot easier to get custom clocks made than watches though.

Katy Jane
05-20-2005, 05:59 AM
I want a t-shirt with this on it :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/katyjane/avvy/5mv.jpg

danieldoof
05-20-2005, 11:27 AM
hey what is wrong here...I cannot see any picture

photobucket does not seem to like me...

edith: okay now I can see :wink:

NAHTMMM
06-07-2005, 06:49 PM
Bumper sticker (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Sloublues/5mvBumpersticker.png) ;)

KillerGodMan
06-08-2005, 03:15 AM
NICE!

mudshark
06-08-2005, 05:41 PM
Bumper sticker (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Sloublues/5mvBumpersticker.png) ;)Heh. Like that one -- the killer in-joke.

Zeke
06-09-2005, 01:27 AM
That thing's awesome, Nah! Did you actually make it as a sticker, or just make the image?

NAHTMMM
06-18-2005, 07:15 PM
Thanks, all! :D :oops:

Sorry, it's just an image. Took me maybe twenty minutes in MS Paint. If I tried to make a real bumper sticker--I don't even know what I'd use for adhesive--I'd surely make a horrible mess of it ;) But then that's what bumper-sticker-making companies are for :)

NAHTMMM
06-19-2005, 01:50 AM
The nice thing about the above slogan and this one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Sloublues/5mvBumpersticker2.png) is that they don't reference Trek or even science fiction in general.

Plus they work on anything from bumper stickers to T-shirts to paperweights to...well, this second one does anyway. ;)


"Berman is a loser", on the other hand, would only work properly on a baseball cap. ;)

mudshark
06-19-2005, 02:24 AM
If I tried to make a real bumper sticker--I don't even know what I'd use for adhesive-- You'd just have to figure out a way to print it on contact paper -- that's all the bumper-sticker people use -- comes with adhesive and backing already.

Chancellor Valium
06-19-2005, 02:54 PM
How about 5MV pens?

NAHTMMM
08-10-2005, 05:19 AM
Back again--not with a product this time... ;)



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Sloublues/Avvies/5mGAv.gif

KillerGodMan
08-10-2005, 05:44 AM
neat! I'd actually WATCH that commercial