November 2: Election 2004 Top 10 Lists [Archive]

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Zeke

11-03-2004, 08:03 AM

It's here! It's huge! Welcome to 5MV's Election 2004 Top 10 Lists event! With this event, our Top 10 subsite reaches and surpasses -- way surpasses -- the 50 mark.

The origin of this event is one of my first T10 lists, The Top 10 Election 2000 Votes From the Voyager Crew (../top10/5.html). I didn't know much at all about politics back then, so I just came up with reasons that sounded funny. This had some unexpected side effects (Jim Wright nearly had a seizure when he saw that his beloved Janeway's vote was for Gore), but I think the lack of canvassing for either side helped the list's popularity, and it remains one of my favourites. So, now that another election is upon us, I decided to follow up that list with some Election 2004 character votes -- but this time doing multiple lists to cover the many series that have been added to 5MV in the last four years (i.e. everything but VOY). So I called up my homies, and this was the result.

Here are the thirteen Top 10 lists that make up this event:
<ul> First off, the true sequel, Election 2004 Votes From Voyager (../top10/49.html) by me. Whose party affiliations have changed? Whose have not? Will Harry die? Will Jim have another seizure? You'll have to click to find out.
Next up, the #50 milestone: Election 2004 Votes From Enterprise (../top10/50.html), again by me.
Our three other Trek subsites are up next, with Votes From TOS (../top10/51.html) by IJD, Votes From TNG (../top10/52.html) by Marc, and Votes From DS9 (../top10/53.html) by Derek.
On to a tour of the non-Trek series covered at 5MV. First at bat is Votes From Andromeda (../top10/54.html) by Tarn-Vedra, a name new at the site but familiar at the forums. Vedra's also written a full Andromeda fiver which you'll be seeing before long.
Next is Votes From Babylon 5 (../top10/55.html) by our B5 specialist, Sa'ar Chasm.
We have two Doctor Who specialists, SCMoll and Scooter, so they collaborated on Votes From Doctor Who (../top10/56.html).
Next, another prominent forumgoer and author of two fivers, PointyHairedJedi, contributes Votes From Firefly (../top10/57.html).
Votes From Lord of the Rings (../top10/58.html) comes your way courtesy of Kira, Site Manager and Two Towers master (mistress?). Kira was also a great help behind the scenes for this event.
Finally, three more lists by me round the event out. The first is Votes From Farscape (../top10/59.html). The second, and undoubtedly the least accessible on this list, is Votes From VVS8/9 (../top10/60.html) -- that's right, 5MV still covers the Virtual Voyager seasons, and I haven't forgotten the part they play here. And finally, I had a few individual entries I didn't want to miss out on, but couldn't get whole lists out of either, so I bundled them into a miscellaneous list, Votes From Other Characters (../top10/61.html).[/list]
But wait, there's more! This event features 5MV's very first Easter egg. Those of you who are into DVDs, videogames, or Homestar Runner will know what that means -- essentially, an Easter egg is a hidden bonus that the reader/user/viewer has to search for. In a videogame, you might have to walk through a wall that looks solid, or use an item in an unusual place. Online Easter eggs are easier -- you pretty much always find them by clicking on something that's not obviously clickable.

The Easter egg for this election event (say that five times fast) shouldn't be too hard to find. It's easy if you're thinking the right way. All I'll tell you is that the hidden "entrance" is on one of those Top 10 list pages. If you try for a while and still can't find it, email me (zeke_att_fiveminute_dott_net) for the answer -- or just watch the comment thread, because someone is bound to post the location once it's found.

Tomorrow, when the results of the election are (hopefully) in, I'll post some election wrapup here, including some interesting links. On the off chance that no one finds the Easter egg, I'll also post a hint. Meanwhile, there's one more item for tonight's looooong update: IJD's hit a small snag with his plan for a fiver to celebrate the release of TOS S2 on DVD, and it won't be ready for a while yet (should be up in at most a week). To tide you over, here's a preview scene:

Spock: Jim, why did you have to fall asleep in the middle of the mission drawing?
Kirk: I was tired! I had a.... busy night.
Spock: (sigh) We could've been sent to figure out the mystery of the pyramids! Or the strange disappearance of the Roanoke colony!
Kirk: I'm sorry! All right?
Spock: Geez, we didn't even get picked for "Who was buried in Grant's Tomb?"!
Kirk: Look, can we just focus on the mission at hand?
Scotty: We're mysteriously intercepting a transporter signal.
Kirk: There! Is that mysterious enough for you?
(A mysterious man with a mysterious cat materializes on the platform)
Mysterious Cat: Yo.
Spock: Fine, fine....

See you tomorrow, and good hunting!

Zeke

11-03-2004, 08:06 AM

Additional note for forumgoers: if you find the Easter egg, by all means post that you've found it, but don't post the location till I say it's time. Let's give everyone a chance to find it themselves first.

Alexia

11-03-2004, 09:17 AM

Hee Hee *has found it*

Awards self with pie :mrgreen:

Opium

11-03-2004, 12:27 PM

A DS9 list was made by someone other than me?

*is confused*

Still hasn't found Easter Egg...hmmm, computery...

Very funny Top 10 Lists! :D

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 12:45 PM

We have two Doctor Who specialists, SCMoll and Scooter, so they collaborated on Votes From Doctor Who.
*Ahem*
good one though.... :)

Zeke

11-03-2004, 12:58 PM

Are you implying that I should have counted you? I was talking about regular 5MV contributors, not just forumgoers.

Derek

11-03-2004, 01:03 PM

Scotty: Cobb. "He's green."
Bwahahahaha.
La Forge: Eisenhower ("Wait a second -- I think we've got some kind of temporal anomaly here....")
Nice one, Marc.
Mal: Nader. He may be on the losing side, but he's yet to be convinced it's the wrong one.
Nice use of Firefly quotes, PHJ.
Aragorn: Ballot invalidated. (What do you mean, he can't declare himself King?)
Heh.

Oh, and I found the easter egg, though I cheated.

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 01:04 PM

Are you implying that I should have counted you? I was talking about regular 5MV contributors, not just forumgoers.
fair enough.

Zeke

11-03-2004, 01:09 PM

Oh, and I found the easter egg, though I cheated.

Cheater.

Of course, I would have too.

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 01:16 PM

What's the point of not cheating? I couldn't find it...:(

Zeke

11-03-2004, 01:18 PM

Keep at it! It sounds like Alexia found it without cheating, and you can too. It's easier than you think it is -- you'll kick yourself when you find it.

Andy Taylor

11-03-2004, 01:24 PM

Top 10 mania, I love it! And I found the easter egg!

But really all I'm posting for is to see if anyone worked out what the final vote tally was? And also if it could change the current result? :twisted:

Zeke

11-03-2004, 01:26 PM

Ooo, I forgot I was gonna do that! It'll be part of today's wrap-up post.

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 01:31 PM

For Ohio?
Republicans:2,794,346 - 51%
Democrats: 2,658,125 - 48.5%

Now it's all up to Iowa and New Mexico's last precincts.......

Zeke

11-03-2004, 01:33 PM

I think he meant for the Top 10 lists in this event, together.

[EDIT: I just noticed I forgot to put a disclaimer on the Easter egg. It's there now.]

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 01:39 PM

oh...okay...

NAHTMMM

11-03-2004, 02:14 PM

Tuvok: Bush (Kerry supporters quickly declared this an instance of Evil Tuvok)
Seven: Nader (She's wearing the green catsuit today)
Harry: Kerry (Did someone just commit suicide?)

DISCLAIMER: "Kes-berry" is a registered trademark of Ambassador Neelix, UFP, used with permission.
:D :D

Tucker: Buchanan, by mistake (he couldn't figure out the stupid ballot form)
Heehee.

Uhura: Peltier. "Hey, I just like the name of the party. 'Peace & Freedom'? Groovy."
:mrgreen:

La Forge: Eisenhower ("Wait a second -- I think we've got some kind of temporal anomaly here....")
Troi: Kerry ("I couldn't make up my mind until I found out that he can't either.")
Worf: Bush ("Do I look like a bleeding-heart liberal?")
:D A very funny list.

Dax: Nader. Dax wanted to vote for Bush; Jadzia wanted to vote for Kerry. (Don't ask.)
Nog: Tried voting in Australia's election instead.
Jake: Kerry. If his dad is voting for Bush, he's darn well voting for Kerry.
Dukat: Dukat (write-in)
Heheheheh :D

Andromeda: Bush (She doesn't really care, it's just to spite Rommie.)

DISCLAIMER: The Mighty Evil God voted to kill Brannon Braga by impaling him with Ken Biller's spine. She was ignored.
Hahahaha :mrgreen:

Lennier: Bush *peeks over Delenn's shoulder* Sorry, Kerry.
Kosh: Marked ballot with an ampersand. Vote discounted.
Heheheheh. Great list!

The Fifth Doctor: Tony Blair. (Anything else just wouldn't be cricket.)
Heheh.

Wash: Kerry. Mostly because he looks like Herman Munster. Man, that show was the best!
Heheheh.

Gimli: Kerry. (The other two remind him too much of foliage.)
Sauron: Kerry. (He doesn't like the sound of Bush's "destroy the Axis of Evil" policy.)

DISCLAIMER: Rumour has it that the Dwarf-Lords got seven votes and the Elven-Kings only got three. Gerrymandering!
:mrgreen:

Scorpius: Kerry ("Your infantile obsession with Iraq is misplaced, George!")
Heh.

Admiral Warhol: Whichever one is more likely to kill Janeway
Carl Grant: Kerry (Get it? Kerry Grant?)
Yes. Ouch. ;)

Khan: Kerry ("He taxes me. He taxes me, and I shall have him.")
Darth Vader: Kerry (He finds Bush's faith disturbing)
Lorne: Kerry (But not John Kerry -- his Southern cousin, Kerry Okie)
:D Another great list to round it out!

Alexia

11-03-2004, 02:32 PM

Keep at it! It sounds like Alexia found it without cheating, and you can too. It's easier than you think it is -- you'll kick yourself when you find it.
That depends...what do you class as cheating :wink:

Oh and,
DISCLAIMER: Porthos was actually voting for Kerry (the cheesier of the two), but found it ruff to put into words.
*groan* :mrgreen:

Zeke

11-03-2004, 03:01 PM

That depends...what do you class as cheating

I meant what I'm almost sure Derek meant: looking at the HTML. That's how I would do it... after hunting for a while the non-cheap way, that is.

Btw, someone remind me later to thank Xeroc in today's update. He helped me with the CSS for hiding this egg.

Hotaru

11-03-2004, 03:08 PM

I found it! and I didn't cheat! Well, I cheated a little.

Great lists! I have too much to quote. Imagine it all here with smilies under each one.

Kira

11-03-2004, 04:15 PM

My htmling of these lists was definitely slowed down by snickering -- always a good sign. My favorites:
Tuvok: Bush (Kerry supporters quickly declared this an instance of Evil Tuvok)

Hoshi: Kerry (She won't vote for someone unless he knows at least one language)

Mayweather: Bush (He often feels misunderestimated too)

Spock: Kerry. "I'm sorry, there's just no way to reconcile 'Bush' and 'Logic'."

DISCLAIMER: You'd think Kirk would vote for the guy with the hot twin daughters.

Worf: Bush ("Do I look like a bleeding-heart liberal?")

Dukat: Dukat (write-in)

Beka: Kerry (She wants better health care so Harper will shut up about the Magog eggs already. What a baby.)

Scorpius: Kerry ("Your infantile obsession with Iraq is misplaced, George!")

Adimha Sycorax: Like she's going to vote for a man!

T'Pel: Hmm... I think these require a personality to work

Ankin Rotor: Bush (Kerry's not even trying to destroy the universe)

Good work, all. :)

Andy Taylor

11-03-2004, 04:28 PM

I think he meant for the Top 10 lists in this event, together.

[EDIT: I just noticed I forgot to put a disclaimer on the Easter egg. It's there now.]

Yeah, that's what I meant. :) And does 5MV count as a state? How many electoral votes do we get? After melting my brain watching so much damn coverage this morning, I feel like an expert in American politics! (As does probably everyone else this time round!) :shock:

Scooter

11-03-2004, 04:30 PM

All very funny, but one of my favorites is definitely

Dylan: Queen Elizabeth II (Commonwealth, people, Commonwealth!)

PS I love how the attribution text on our DW list has "Contact the authors...and SCMoll." Maybe he cloned himself? :)

SCMoll

11-03-2004, 04:33 PM

I agree with Scooter with one addition:

My last name has been misspelled. TWO N's, BY'R LA'KIN! TWO N's!

Chancellor Valium

11-03-2004, 04:34 PM

I have to agree with Dylan there..... :D

Zeke

11-03-2004, 04:36 PM

Oops, looks like that slipped past Kira and me both. I'll fix it when I get home; post any others here if you find them.

Scooter

11-03-2004, 04:45 PM

Easter Egg was funny and delicious, thanks

(A mysterious man with a mysterious cat materializes on the platform)
Mysterious Cat: Yo.
Spock: Fine, fine....

Hmmm, looks like you're taking a few liberties with the plot of Amok Time, there... Looking forward to seeing where you go with it, though... (hums to himself)

Alexia

11-03-2004, 04:47 PM

Katy Jane

11-03-2004, 05:28 PM

# Ford Prefect: Anybody but Zaphod

Zaphod in 2008 :D *V for victory sign thingy* ;)

Great lists all around, i haven't found the easter egg yet though :-s

Edit: Ok i found it, but i cheated. ;) I had the right idea... but i don't think i would have found it on my own....

Derek

11-03-2004, 05:53 PM

I meant what I'm almost sure Derek meant: looking at the HTML. That's how I would do it... after hunting for a while the non-cheap way, that is.
Yep. If you'd wanted to make that searching technique a little more obscure, you could've made a javascript onclick attribute to a span or something instead of an A element. Then it wouldn't have been quite as easy.

But for anyone who has Mozilla or Netscape or whatever and doesn't want to go through the source, hit Ctrl-I on each top ten list, then hit the links tab. It will list every link on the page.

Zeke

11-03-2004, 05:59 PM

Opera method: Just press A repeatedly. The cursor will move from the first link visible on the page (selecting it) to the second to the third, and so forth. (This is one of Opera's keyboard-browsing tricks -- I learned them all when working on lab computers with broken mice. Also handy: Z is back, X is forward.) I don't know how to do the JavaScript stuff Derek just mentioned, so the egg link is hidden by using style attributes inside the <a> tag to turn off underlining and such. Next Easter egg I'll do the research and this trick won't work.

Derek

11-03-2004, 06:08 PM

Also handy: Z is back, X is forward.
I prefer Alt-Back Arrow for Back and Alt-Right Arrow for Forward since that works on Opera, IE, and Mozilla/Netscape.

Marc

11-03-2004, 06:10 PM

Khan: Kerry ("He taxes me. He taxes me, and I shall have him.")

Odo: Still doesn't know. Keeps shifting back and forth.

Heheheheh....

I noticed that each list has a customized disclaimer, which is a nice touch.

ijdgaf

11-03-2004, 06:17 PM

SCMoll

11-03-2004, 06:50 PM

Well, I used Derek's method to find them, but in retrospect, it's fairly obvious, isn't it?

Zeke

11-03-2004, 06:51 PM

I noticed that each list has a customized disclaimer, which is a nice touch.

Yeah, I've actually been doing that with the T10 lists for a while now. I think it started with the Zhaan girlfriend list, where the disclaimer explained a slightly hard-to-spot pun in #1.

Kira

11-03-2004, 07:08 PM

Oops, looks like that slipped past Kira and me both. I'll fix it when I get home; post any others here if you find them.
Can't pin that one on me: I got SCMoll's information off his Doctor Who fivers, where apparently his name is also spelt wrong. It's fixed now.

SCMoll

11-03-2004, 07:10 PM

^ It was? Oh, my! There will be blood...

Kira

11-03-2004, 07:12 PM

::: points at Zeke :::

SCMoll

11-03-2004, 07:18 PM

So, a quick tally shows me that 46 of the fictional characters represented on 5MV voted for Bush (41.1% of those voting), in contrast to 42 who voted for Kerry (37.5%). Nader had a decent showing at 10 votes (8.9%), while Cobb collected two (1.8%) and Buchanan and Peltier each collected one (0.9%).

The ten write-ins were very diverse, including Eisenhower, Tony Blair and Queen Elizabeth, Toby the Targ, Kerry Okie, and Gul Dukat. There were 18 respondents who did not vote, could not vote, refused to state their vote, or were otherwise not counted; these folks included Kosh, the First Doctor, Ford Prefect, Book, and Rygel.

MaverickZer0

11-03-2004, 08:42 PM

Nice trick Zeke. Such a bad pun, though...

*munches on pie* So, I guess it was hard to put all the BnG characters in...I notice Proto Man didn't vote...

Does that count as a spoiler? I didn't exactly cheat to find it, but, *shrug* it only took a minute after I started thinking clearly to realize where Zeke's corny sense of humor would lead.

It's...
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..what, you thought I was going to tell you where it was?

Celeste

11-03-2004, 09:36 PM

Xeroc

11-04-2004, 12:11 AM

I found it too, and I would admit, it's obvious, yet easy to miss.

Also, don't remember to thank me. ;) :D

FatMatDuhRat

11-04-2004, 01:34 AM

Disclaimer: Congratulations to the two or three people who'll get all of these references!

Best. Disclaimer. EVER!

Not only was it very cool to see a list that references
a lot of the VVS8/9 stories, but Toby the Targ got one
vote from baby Miral Paris. Nice one, Z!

(Also, I can't find the E.egg, but I'm not looking very
hard since I'm clicking around and reading webcomics
when I'm suppossed to be working.)

NAHTMMM

11-04-2004, 02:24 AM

Found the Easter egg! WITHOUT cheating ;)

Lots of funny stuff! :D :D :D

ijdgaf

11-04-2004, 03:26 AM

I'm, er, going to guess this (http://fiveminute.net/top10/62.html) isn't the easter egg.

MaverickZer0

11-04-2004, 03:52 AM

I found that in the chat last night, and it's not.
Haven't you found it yet?

Opium

11-04-2004, 08:28 AM

I have still haven't found it...anyone got a IE trick I could try? :?

Opium

11-04-2004, 08:40 AM

Ha HA found it!
It was in a list on a series I know nothing about...

BR48

11-04-2004, 04:33 PM

Nice top ten lists, Zeke. I thought Chakotay's vote was the funniest one, but there were lots of great lines.

I've found the egg, without cheating. Unfortunately, I don't read any of those comics. Oh well, it was still a nice event.

Vedra

11-05-2004, 06:23 AM

Did you like my list, BR48? Hehe.

Ginga

11-05-2004, 07:14 AM

DISCLAIMER: Congratulations to the two or three people who'll get all of these references!

Oh, oh! That's me! :D

Still lookin' for that Egg... but it's on a list, huh? :wink:

BR48

11-05-2004, 07:16 AM

Tarn-Vedra,

Yeah, that was a great list. I actually laughed out loud when I read this one:

Dylan: Queen Elizabeth II (Commonwealth, people, Commonwealth!)

Of course, more Andromeda is always good. 8)

Fuyu Ginga,

Would you care for a hint? If so, read this: To find the secret, think of puns.

Ginga

11-05-2004, 07:30 AM

Fuyu Ginga,

Would you care for a hint? If so, read this: To find the secret, think of puns.

Puns. List. Okay. I think I found the LIST, but not the egg. :K

5 minutes later or so...

AUGH. *bangs head against computer monitor* This patience and searchy CSI stuff is not my strong suit. X_x

BR48

11-05-2004, 05:56 PM

PointyHairedJedi

11-05-2004, 06:39 PM

I'm still looking too. But I'll find it!

These lists are very funny, I must say. The Firefly one is especially good. :D

Ginga

11-05-2004, 07:22 PM

*falls over*

Oh, frick, that should've been so easy. But you're right, it is really hard to miss.

Thanks for the hint, Hotaru.

Now I feel stupid. :roll:

Zeke

11-06-2004, 02:30 PM

I'm not saying anything for certain, you understand. But the Easter egg? Just might have been updated. And that update just might be for a strip more people read.

Maybe.

BR48

11-06-2004, 04:10 PM

And to that, all I can say is: Woot!

Zeke

11-07-2004, 12:04 AM

Don't look now, but it's been updated again. Twice. And one's not a webcomic.

AKAArzosah

11-09-2004, 07:45 AM

Someone may have already mentioned this (my internet isso slow i can't be bothered looking) but the babylon 5 top ten list has no disclaimer.

Also, I found the easter egg.

Can I say something about that now, or are people still not cheating?

Zeke

11-09-2004, 02:30 PM

Yeah, I have no clue where that disclaimer went. I did write one, and it was there at least long enough for Sa'ar to see it. I'll put it back.

Feel free to talk about the Easter egg now. I'll be revealing the location in today's update for those who haven't found it yet.

AKAArzosah

11-10-2004, 10:50 AM

The Easter egg got me onto a new webcomic, which is excellent. But they're larvae, people! Not eggs! Yes there is a difference! Okay, so that's not the end of the world or anything, but i had to mention it anyway.

PointyHairedJedi

11-10-2004, 04:22 PM

^ You'd be failing in your duty as a nerd if you'd done any less, my friend.

MaverickZer0

11-11-2004, 08:49 AM

Yeah, I read enough webcomics as it is so....

*ticks off fingers* Five, actually. Okay that's not that many, but it's enough.

Mind you, I had to resist the urge to not click on some of those links. At one point, I considered webcomics an evil equal to only Final Fantasy, Live Journals, and that guy on the Quaker oats box. But then I found Bob and George...................

...And that's when I hit him in the head with a hammer. Great story, eh?

AKAArzosah

11-11-2004, 10:48 AM

^ You'd be failing in your duty as a nerd if you'd done any less, my friend.

I do my best.