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Opium
04-13-2005, 10:48 PM
Eep! Is the 5MV forum's in a colapsing bubble? First the member titles, then sig pics (okay, so the eTrektion sigs were a little big), the eTrektion itself, and now...flags!

Wesley's at it again! :twisted:

danieldoof
04-13-2005, 11:02 PM
whoa :shock:

then I hope the traveller comes to save the day :wink:

Zeke
04-14-2005, 12:14 AM
Ah, you begin to notice. I had to patch the forum to fix a security problem, and it messed with some of the mods. I'll reinstall them, but first AntonyF of TrekToday (where usernames go in bold) is going to inspect the place to make sure the security hole is fully sealed.

It's possible -- but not necessarily likely -- that I'll need to do something more thorough than patching the forum. A full reinstall might not be a bad idea. In theory, it wouldn't affect the database, i.e. your member data; in practice, I'll get Owen's help to make damn sure it doesn't. Just call me Wes and him the Traveler.

Opium
04-14-2005, 12:28 AM
Sounds good :)

BTW, anyone every thank you for having this fun online place-to-play-when-you-be-writing-essays? Because I am :D

Zeke
04-14-2005, 03:02 AM
Not lately, so thanks. :)

I'm worried about this community, to be honest. A lot of former regulars are rarely seen now, and the place just seems less active. I'm trying to think of ways to attract people again, but with 5MV's main draw living on borrowed time, it may not be easy. Any suggestions from you guys are welcome....

Celeste
04-14-2005, 03:50 AM
I'm still here, though I guess you could say i'm rarely seen. Though that's probably because I don't reply in any of the silly "Topic Title" threads, and I don't read any of the fivers unless they're from Trek. ::shrug::

Scooter
04-14-2005, 04:10 AM
BTW, anyone every thank you for having this fun online place-to-play-when-you-be-writing-essays? Because I am :D

I'm not visiting the forum much either (busy busy) but I'm still around too, and I second the vote of thanks and move to pass by acclamation. All in favor?

NAHTMMM
04-14-2005, 05:03 AM
^Aye! :mrgreen:

Zeke
04-14-2005, 05:55 AM
Much appreciated from you both, but I can't help recalling my favourite scene from David Gerrold's novelization of "Encounter at Farpoint"....

Picard cleared his throat. "Stardate 41150.7. Captain's log. First entry: These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Her continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before. Entry complete."

Picard looked around at his officers. Their faces were beaming. Abruptly, they applauded.

Picard was embarrassed, and held up a hand to stop them. "Belay that until we do something worthy of applause."

I've barely kept this site alive in the last year, and I've been too proud to turn things over to someone who would do better. I've done nothing to keep you, and a number of you even feel I've done something to drive you away. I've been coasting -- not just at 5MV, but in every single area of my life -- for a long time, and more flagrantly every year.

The good news, such as it is, is that I can't do it anymore. Coasting takes momentum, and no matter how much you start with, sooner or later you run out. Recent events on- and offline have made it very clear to me that I've finally reached the end; my current attitude can get me this far, and absolutely no farther. If I want to keep being a user, a liar, a leech, then I can. But I won't get anything more from life than I have now.

I've admitted all this now, and I'm working to turn my life around. I'm determined to start deserving your and others' thanks again. To "do something worthy of applause."

But right now? No. I'm the one who needs to thank you. Because you know what kind of person I am, how little you gain from supporting me -- and you're still here. I'm not worthy, but I'm truly grateful.

Opium
04-14-2005, 06:48 AM
^ Tough times are...tough. I can relate...things can go off-kilter. But the best thing you can do is keep going and keep checking out that you're on the right path (or for that matter, any path), and that seems that is what you're trying to do. :)

But still remember to relax and have fun sometimes while you're analysising and working through stuff. Being hard on yourself just makes things even harder.

Chancellor Valium
04-14-2005, 09:08 AM
Zeke, fair enough, this is a hobby for you after all :wink:

evay
04-14-2005, 10:23 AM
Where else are we supposed to get pie? ;) Hang in there, Z. You aren't being abandoned.

NAHTMMM
04-14-2005, 11:23 PM
I coast to some extent from time to time too, Zeke. You're not alone in that. :oops:

PointyHairedJedi
04-14-2005, 11:53 PM
Just call me Wes
Shoot, I was so set on calling you Jar-Jar as well. :(

Zeke, I've said it before and I'll say it again - You Don't Suck (not even when I ask really nicely... erm, ignore that bit), and I suspect everyone here would agree with me. I think the fact that 5MV is cool and all, but real life takes precedent doesn't escape people either, so don't beat yourself up quite so much about it. That never really gets you anywhere. Anywhere good, at any rate.

Rayinne
04-15-2005, 06:31 AM
It would be disappointing for you to hit the showers at this point - the site's gathering all sorts of new fan-people. When it gets all old and decrepit and only, say, Kira has the pull to bring it back from the edge, then she retires, you still better not quit. If you do, the Q continuum and that random midwestern carpetbagger are gonna laugh in your face.

OK, I'm a little screwed up right now. But still, though I'm not the most active of sorts myself, I do like this place. It'd suck to see it become a ghost town. But then again, there is that overwhelming force called "reality." As much as I'm tempted by lack of sleep to philosophize and Al/Chi 'ship here, I'll save it and just summarize.

5MV rocks. Sometimes things might get in the way, but still...5MV rocks.

Nan
04-15-2005, 07:21 AM
We love you, Zekeybuns!

Celeste
04-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Hey hey hey. Real life comes first. Internet comes second. I may spend one hell of a time on the internet. But I still have a life. (surprising, I know) it may not be much of one. But it's one! :P You got one too Zekeybuns. You only get one. Of course you get more if you believe in reincarnation and that. But! That being said. More Trek Fivers would always be good too. :) I'll take either or. ;)

Alexia
04-15-2005, 09:53 PM
*waves*

What, you think I have another forum to visit? :wink: :mrgreen:

I coast. Coasting's dandy. Hell, I said "dandy"...I need to stop hanging out with all you American folks :wink:

Xeroc
04-15-2005, 10:37 PM
I haven't been around much lately, as there have been lots of work for me in my life, that's all.


Zeke, I reccommend that you should try to make this site more active, and the best way to do that if you're too busy is to distribute the work among other people!

Scooter
04-16-2005, 12:22 AM
But right now? No. I'm the one who needs to thank you. Because you know what kind of person I am, how little you gain from supporting me -- and you're still here. I'm not worthy, but I'm truly grateful.

What's the point of supporting your friends only when they don't need it? And we're not here because we "get" something from you. It's like you built a house, and you made it a nice place to visit. That's still true even if you're away on business. After all, you left pie in the fridge for us. ;)

Draknek
04-16-2005, 12:13 PM
I think you just need to stop promising updates before you've written the content for them.

Just because you're not updating as often as you used to, we're not going to form a mob and burn you at the stake.

Hotaru
04-16-2005, 02:38 PM
I think you just need to stop promising updates before you've written the content for them.

Just because you're not updating as often as you used to, we're not going to form a mob and burn you at the stake.

*puts down torch* of course not!

Seriously though, Zeke things on this site could stop updating for a year and nobody here would care. We know things at this site take time, and that real life is hard and also takes time. Just a little "I'm alive!" update and we'll all be happy.

We love this site and what you do, Zeke. Thank-you.

NAHTMMM
04-16-2005, 06:04 PM
^Well, we'd certainly care, but we'd understand that things in real life get in the way of what we want or ought to do. ;) We wouldn't get angry or anything.

Katy Jane
04-16-2005, 06:33 PM
Zeke, I reccommend that you should try to make this site more active, and the best way to do that if you're too busy is to distribute the work among other people!

I agree with this. It would make the contributeing members more active because they would feel more involved, and it would (hopefuly) result in more content. But as far as what work would be distributed, i don't really know. :(

MaverickZer0
04-23-2005, 07:27 AM
Mmm-hmm. Honestly, I (and I think anyone else who's ever attempted to run a site before) can understand how difficult it is to do anything at all. The fact that 5MV is so large and has so much content is inspiring, if anything. And so what if you coast sometimes? Doesn't everyone?

Like other people have said, I think we'd just be happy if you reminded us you were still around every now and then. You're the only one beating yourself up--it's not the end of the world if you don't have content up all the time.

And no one's going to turn rabid on you. Unless of course we all run out of pie. ;)

catalina_marina
04-23-2005, 12:12 PM
And no one's going to turn rabid on you. Unless of course we all run out of pie. ;)
Hm, I do seem to remember someone a while ago though. But you can just ignore them. ;)