Add a Fiveminute.Net Page to TVTropes?
 

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Lots of people put fanfics on the site whether or not they wrote it. After all, fanfics have tropes too, right? So I thought it may be a nice way to drum up interest. And we do use a lot of tropes in our work. And Zeke is a fellow troper, so yeah...

Anyway, I'd like some discussion of what should be added to the page? Is there a single paragraph from a fiver that would be a good page quote to introduce us to the troper community? What would be the best image to use? And so forth.

Actually, I've been pleasantly surprised to find several 5M.net links on the site already (I'm an inveterate hitcounter-checker). Besides people's profiles, we're recommended on the Voyager recaps page along with Delta Blues -- always good company to be in. And "How to Debate an Exploding Candidate", which included a shout-out to the Good Thing You Can Heal trope, has actually seen that shout-out returned.

I'd certainly have no problem with people starting a 5M.net page at TVT (and I'd be flattered). Due to the obvious conflict of interest, I probably shouldn't have too much to do with it myself.

Would you mind if I called the page Five Minute Voyager, with a Five Minute Dot Net redirect?

As for conflict of interest, we're in danger of that either way, aren't we?

That sounds awesome. Of course, I'm a troper myself, so I might just have to start plugging in a few places...

Of course we'd need a ptitle for "Fiveminute.Net", but what else is new?

I should have guessed that you were all tropers, too.

Actually, this revelation explains most of the content of that site.

Awesome.

I've started the page, but I'll need a lot of help to make this thing presentable.

Lookin' good, Nate! I want to thank you for resisting the temptation -- which, knowing your feelings on the matter, was surely strong -- to link the April Fool's note to Wall Banger instead of Schedule Slip.

It's not a big deal, but given the choice, I would prefer FiveMinute.net as primary title instead of Five-Minute Voyager. I miss the 5MV days too, but that hasn't been our name since '05, and I still think changing it was the right move. (Anyway, the old name survives as the name of the Voyager subsite.)

Now that ptitles are so easy to make I didn't see a reason why we couldn't have fiveminute.net as the name of the page. I still plan to use the Five Minute Voyager redirect in other places because it's an easier link to use, however.

And as my contributor page says, I now intend to read all of the fivers again to find the tropes. It's been too long since I read the fivers, anyway, and I guess I kept falling under Archive Panic mode. But now I have a reason to read!

Mav, Wowwy, I'm not sure what your troper handles are, so if you want to substitute links to your contributor pages, that'd be great.

Tropes for the Caretaker fiver now up. Sheesh, if I don't restrain myself this page is going to be HUGE.

Parallax tropes now up. I am on a roll...

I don't have a page yet. (I'm lazy.) But my Troper name is Darkloid_Blues. Also, I don't think I've ever actually gotten around to submitting a fiver. >> The only one I have written up in full is the one for NT Warrior Axess, anyway.

Hmm. This does present a problem. Would you just prefer to not be mentioned on the page at all?

To return to business, as the number of episodes I post tropes for increase, I intend to folderize the sections. Should I make the folders series-specific, season-specific, or what? Input is appreciated.

I think you should categorise by trope and then have episode examples listed under Lampshade Hanging, Call Foward, Completely Missing The Point, etc.

Lumping by trope works with other works, but fiveminute.net is different. With fivers it's a lot faster just to present excerpts than summarize what's going on into terse examples. And if I'm reading one fiver at at time it's a lot easier to post in sections than sort the new entries among the old ones every time. And there are A LOT of fivers to come.

Besides, a lot of the excerpts will serve as examples of more than one trope at a time, and I don't want to have to post twice.

Eventually I'll probably split series-specific pages off of the main fiveminute.net page, keeping the main page for common fiver tropes in addition to being a hub.

Honestly, not mentioning me might be better.

Annnnd I think we should stick to TV Tropes standard format for the examples, too. It's a bit jarring the way it is now.

You're probably right, but that's just going to increase the amount of work I'll have to do exponentially. In fact, I'll probably have to maintain a copy of the page on my computer to fiddle around with and just paste back to TVTropes every so often to update.

Next question. Should I link episode titles back to their corresponding fivers? It would be a considerate thing to do to help those ignorant of our fair site, but it would be A LOT of work.

Since 5M.net has used more tropes in more concentrated form than possibly any other fictional work in the history of the world, it might be a lot easier (and a lot shorter) to go through every trope in the Trope Database and find one example from fiver canon.

Yeah, I think linking episode titles is important, because, y'know, people are stupid and tropers, while rarely stupid, are usually pretty lazy. :P

I've now restructured the page so all the tropes are in one big stack, with episode titles linked to the individual fiver pages. Sheesh, that was a lot of work.

I wanted to add a logo to the page, but I ended up cropping the clock off of one of the subsite banners. Zeke, I'm sure you have better images to put there.

I had one, but I'm not sure where it is now. :( Maybe I can dig it up . . .

Here's another plea for a proper logo.

How do we feel about removing the "this page is still under construction" tag? Does this page seem cohesive enough to stand under its own weight?

If I were to remove the "this page under construction" tag, I'd want to put a proper page quote up there. I already have "Because stuff is long and life is short" as the caption for the logo. Should it be moved to the top of the page, or is there a more representative line, perhaps a quote from one of the fivers?

I think that's a pretty good quote to go with. :)


The page is looking pretty good right now, all right. I've gone ahead and registered, but I doubt I'll do more than bits and pieces.

That didn't address the fundamental question. If I move the "life is short" quote to the top, what do I use as the caption for the logo? A quip about the clock hotlinked to "Don't Explain the Joke?"

Oh, I see. Yes, that sounds like a sensible plan.

Zeke, I just noticed that you haven't linked to the TVTropes Fiveminute.net page on your contributor page yet. I didn't want to mess with your page without your permission.