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Old 02-07-2025, 05:53 PM
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TUVOK: I could describe to you in detail the psychological observations I have made about you over the past four years which lead me to conclude you are about to take this ship inside the asteroid. But suffice it to say, I know you quite well.

Four years? Tuvok has known Janeway since 2356, that's fifteen years! Yeah, yeah, new show, growing pains, etc. but still!

NEELIX: Doctor, wait, don't leave.
EMH: I'm not leaving, Mister Neelix, I'm simply going back to work.
NEELIX: I can't see you over there. I feel like I'm all alone.


Ugh. Put a set of VR glasses and headphones on Neelix and free up a hand to operate some variant of a mouse and let him entertain himself.

TUVOK: No, Captain. The walls are emanating severe electro-magnetic interference. I cannot scan them directly.
JANEWAY: It's like trying to move through a hall of mirrors. You never know when you're going to walk into the glass.
PARIS: I'm still picking up the alien's ion trail. Maybe we should follow that.
CHAKOTAY: He might have left a fake ion trail to lure us in here. It could lead us right into one of those walls.


So use the tractor beam in short bursts to map the walls. Duh. You can have it be a slow process to build up a 3D model of this chamber before you can move freely.

JANEWAY: That's a chance we're going to have to take. Tuvok, extend the deflectors to maximum range. If we do run into something, it'll give us an extra margin of error.

Oh sure, turn the ship into a bumper car! Great idea!

MOTURA: Yes, it attacked our people over two millennia ago. It consumes our bodies, destroys our genetic codes and cellular structures.
JANEWAY: So you harvest the bodies of other beings to replace your own tissues as they're consumed by this phage?
MOTURA: Our immuno-technology cannot keep up. The phage adapts. It resists all attempts to destroy it. Our society has been ravaged. Thousands die each day. There is no other way for us to survive.


It occurs to me that this would be a great way to tie into the Borg. Suppose the Vidiians had found a way to resist assimilation, so the Borg created the Phage to weaken them so that either they died out or got weak enough to be assimilated down the road.

JANEWAY: Take a message to your people. If I ever encounter your kind again, I will do whatever is necessary to protect my people from this harvesting of yours. Any aggressive actions against this ship or it's crew will be met by the deadliest force. Is that clear?
DERETH: Quite.


Well that's cold blooded, and I can't help but feel that this is part of Jeri Taylor's machinations to make her seem strong at the expense of common sense.

DERETH: Which of you will donate a lung?
KES: Me.
NEELIX: No, absolutely not. It's too dangerous. Let someone else do it.
KES: No, I want to do it, Neelix. I'm willing to take the risk.


I get Kes' devotion, but her lung is much smaller than Neelix's. This transplant would leave both of them unable to exert themselves at all. They could've at least thrown in a line about Kes's lungs are easier for Doc to replicate and implant and have Kes donate BOTH of her lungs to Neelix.

The Fiver

Chakotay: Neelix, what happened?
Neelix: GAK!
Chakotay: Someone stole your lungs?
Neelix: GAK!
Chakotay: Then how are you saying "Gak"?
Neelix: Shut up.

Timmy fell down a well? Hehe.

Doc: I'm sorry, but Neelix will never be able to leave this restraint.
Kes: NOOOOOOOO!
Doc: And he'll have to spend the rest of his life in Sickbay with me.
Neelix: NOOOOOOOO!

It's amusing to ponder whether or not Doc or Neelix would be more tortured by this arrangement.

Neelix: I'm bored. Will you sing for me, Doc?
Doc: Pfft. Me? Sing? That'll be the day.

Hehe. I was able to get a lot of examples for our TVTropes page from this fiver.

Kes: I'll give Neelix one of my lungs. That way he'll remember me even after I'm gone.
All: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Janeway: Good one, Kes, but go ahead anyways.

This one seems a but tasteless. Neelix mentioned Kes plenty of times in the later seasons.

Memory Alpha

* Originally it was supposed to be Paris' heart stolen. To me a problem with this is that I jolly well expect Doc to be able to replicate and implant a human heart. It would have to be either Kes or Neelix to justify inadequate medical knowledge.
* Originally the Vidiians were called "Vaphorans", but the actors couldn't pronounce the word the same.

Nitcentral

* The terms "planetoid", "planet", and "moon" are used for the Vidiian base, these aren't remotely synonymous.
* Even if the Vidiians could transplant Neelix's lungs back, wouldn't they be tainted by the Phage by now?
* Much discussion about whether this episode is a ripoff of "Spock's Brain." I feel that the similarities are weak enough to not really play a factor (although I wonder if Doc has the Fabrini medical database in him).
* Why didn't Janeway immediately impose isolation when the Phage was brought up?
* Someone wondered why Doc couldn't clone new lungs using Neelix's DNA. I would immediately retort that Doc doesn't know enough about Talaxians yet. Were the Delta Quadrant races seeded by the Progenitors? I'm not sure.
* How come they only took Neelix's lungs as opposed to all of them?
* Someone else brought up my idea of a transplant from someone that Doc COULD make new lungs for.

Delta Blues

* Jim wonders if Doc is more capable of emotion because of the bioneural gelpacks. I am extremely dubious of this idea.
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