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April 23
Here are the next two of Nate's DS9 fivers, chosen for their interrelatedness: "His Way" and "The Sound of Her Voice." Expect to see many, many more of them. (He's Nate. It's what he does.) In other news, the Trek community is hopping over the news that J. J. Abrams has been announced as director of Star Trek XI. I don't think a newspost is quite enough to convey how spectacularly I don't care, so look for an update on the subject.
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...so you double-posted to convey your lack of careness?
Nice.
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No, I double-posted because I thought I was editing the second time. But I really, really don't care.
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I don't care who's directing it; I'm much more wary of the concept.
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Don't be. Don't care. It's not going to happen. If anything announced at this stage actually makes it to the final product, it'll be coincidence or witchcraft.
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To return to my fivers... (ahem :? )
Here's a micropoll for you guys who've read His Way. As originally written, Vic's punchline is "I'm from the forties, it's what I do." I thought that Vic is from the forties. Zeke corrected it, and I suppose he does have a point because Vic does reference JFK at one point and seems familiar with the world of Our Man Bashir, which is definitely sixties. However, I can't help but peg Vic's personality as being a little older than that. Were there really gangsters, protection rackets, more jazz than rock, etc. in the sixties? Besides, I think the technology was a BIT more advanced in the sixties than that. For that matter, time after time we've seen Vic exist in both "his" timeframe and everything since then. He's got a good grasp of current events, even if the vocabulary and metaphors are limited to his own. Who's to say he can't use sixties references while still "living" in the forties? So, what's your guys' opinion? When in the world is Vic Fontaine?
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He's very big band, swing, Rat Pack era -- totally the Forties. I don't remember him referencing Kennedy but I'll take your word for it. I wouldn't put him any later than 1955 at the absolute outside. Remember also that Sisko and Kasady have a squabble about how blacks were treated in the era in which Vic is set, and by the Sixties there would have been some rumble of the civil rights movement.
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Oooh, I wonder if the movie will explain all of the timeline errors that took place between Enterprise and Star Trek TOS? Clarify the whole "Temporal Cold War" thing. Make it so that Malcolm didn't invent Red Alert; hell, even go as far as having Spock explain why Pon Farr is suddenly taboo!
~~Lostoyannaya :mrgreen:
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James Darren - the guy playing Vic - actually was a singer in the 60s (he had a song called Goodby Cruel World in 1961) and hung out with the Rat Pack. Apparently Sinatra (or possibly someone else - my DS9 book with all this stuff in it is back in Kelowna) would call everyone Pallie, which is why Vic says that.
So, yeah, 60s. Edit: fixed typos
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I guess I should have been clearer before... there is no debate. In "It's Only a Paper Moon," Nog asks for a calculator and Vic hands him a pencil, saying, "It's 1962, kid. What do you want from me?" Later, in "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang," Sisko also cites the year specifically as 1962.
I was surprised too. I would have guessed an earlier year. But he is from the sixties.
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April 24 Today I head back to Waterloo, so there won't be an update. Nor will there be satisfaction. And I try, you know.
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(I have no life, seriously.- it's Another World, catch it on Soapnet) Oh and Janeway started on a soap too. Just so you know. And Paris and B'Elanna, and ok I could go on and on.... (and Q) Sab, running away fast... ETA: psst: by the way: great fiver! |
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So I'm not the only one. Thanks, folks.
Odo complains to Vic about how Kira is going out with Shakaar. Vic asks who that is, and Odo goes in about how he's this big governmental leader of Bajor and stuff, Vic goes "I don't care if he's JFK, ..." showing how he knows about Kennedy and other 60's stuff.
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Or should this sort of stuff have its own thread "what they did before" or something?
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I'm gonna say that Vic comes from the 50's. His singing is much too croonish for the forties/ he's not pretentious enough for the sixties, and those songs sure as hell ain't earlier than about 1940 at the earliest, IMO.
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Well, I'm gonna say Vic's from the 1830's...
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I'd put him around the 2370s.
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Such is my understanding, at least.
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