Dr Who Series 4!

[Burt]

That 10 Doctors is fantastic. I stumbled across it a few weeks ago, and lost 3 hours. Amazingly good drawing though, and very like the personality of each doctor.
I really did like the forest episode.. It confused the hell out of me for about 25 minutes.. Which I love! I like not understanding... right till the end. I thought the music was just haunting too. And River... think we'll see her again? I'm sure it's all been a big set up for future storylines. I'm however very, very worried about this 'Doctor's name' thing they have going.. It's terribly fascinating, but it can't end well. I don't want to know his name! Never, NEVER tell me! It'll just... be wrong! Saying that.. I can't help thinking what the secret could be? How can a name be sooo...bad? And he said something like 'There's only one time I could tell someone my name?' You don't think they're thinking of bringing up that old not used storyline - The One?

All very excited for the end of the series too. I hope it's on par with Series 2. That had me totally hooked. Series 3... well... I see it's charm now, but I wasn't impressed when I watched it.

[Chancellor Valium]

@whoiam: That's but one large element of my general dislike of the Zygma Experiments.

@topic: The Ten Doctors is reasonably drawn but a mediocre fanfic at best.

[Burt]

Ok, this weeks story. Clever, quite scary but a little thin on .. well story. I mean.. nothing happened! Still, enjoyed it.
But the build up to the big series end is great! Aprat from Rose returning.. there's the darkness? I'm not sure what that is, I know the big baddie is gonna be Davros, but I can't understand how he could conquer other universes? Then there is this comment towards Donna... 'There's something on your back.' which been said a few times in the series now. The trailer for next weeks episode (Turn Left) looks very exciting though. The start of a big finish!
Oh and I saw something today that is totally clear, but I didn't get untill now.
1st Doctor - Main thing - Daleks/ Daleks invade Earth
2nd Doctor - Main thing - Cybermen invade Earth
3rd Doctor - Main thing - The Master/ The Master on Earth
4th Doctor - Main thing - THE DALEKS AND DAVROS!

Then you look at each of the new series and... The pattern fits!

[Chancellor Valium]

You're picking a very few stories out of a much wider context. The Daleks and Davros, in the case of the Fourth Doctor, they appear twice in seven years, covering a total of ten weeks, or two and a half months (give or take). In seven years. The same can be applied to the others.

[Burt]

Oh, of course - But it does seem to kinda fit. I mean, yes the Cybermen were seen with the 1st Doctor, but they really made an inpact in the 2nd Doctor's time The tomb/The invasion. The Master, was totally the 3rd Doctor's main baddie. For the fouth doctor, I would have said that the Sontarans and Davros were the main big bad's, both of them were shown twice and they had the most effect, were the most well know. Still, it wasn't my theory, but I think it fits rather well. I suppose RTD didn't really plan it that way, but - to me - it seems like he's picked major things from each of the Doctor's times. I can't quite think what he could pick from the 5th Doctor though.. The Master again? The Rani was the 6th and 7th? I suppose there was the Sea Devils...

[Chancellor Valium]

The reason the Master didn't continue was purely because Delgado died. In any case, you're trying to work them up as though they were deliberately set pieces in the mould of the new series - which they weren't. The Fourth actually only faced the Sontarans twice in 7 years as well - for a combined 90 mins, half of which is generally considered the most awful waste of time put together in the history of the programme.

If anything, what characterised Tom's tenure were the gothic horrors of the Hinchcliffe/Holmes production team, and later the Key to Time season.

And if that's what RTD is doing, it's a rather silly plan, I must say. In any case, he's leaving in time for series five - thank Kroll...

[Burt]

Originally Posted by Chancellor Valium

The reason the Master didn't continue was purely because Delgado died. In any case, you're trying to work them up as though they were deliberately set pieces in the mould of the new series - which they weren't. The Fourth actually only faced the Sontarans twice in 7 years as well - for a combined 90 mins, half of which is generally considered the most awful waste of time put together in the history of the programme.

If anything, what characterised Tom's tenure were the gothic horrors of the Hinchcliffe/Holmes production team, and later the Key to Time season.

And if that's what RTD is doing, it's a rather silly plan, I must say. In any case, he's leaving in time for series five - thank Kroll...

Like I said, not my theory! It's on other websites. And yeah, i know the 4th only faced the Sontarans twice, but one of them had them almost conquering his homeworld! But you're missing the point with the characterization stuff. I don't think they were saying he was using the most defining things from each series - if he was, then I would have expected series one and two to be in black and white. And I mean, K9 and Sarah was brought back in series two. The Macra in series three. Clearly he's not following things exactly. But - possibly - he decided beforehand, the major baddies from each of the Doctors eras, to use in each series. I mean it does kinda work out, right? The Daleks were the most shown in the first Doctors time? The Cybermen, were shown twice in the second Doctors time - one being a 6 parter and having some iconic scenes in it, mainly Cybermen marching down London streets (remind you of any series two episodes?)! I can't think of another second Doctor Baddie shown more than once. The third Doctor's baddie was the Master though and though. (And I hear there was a story that Delgado only wanted his Master to be in it one more time, and to be killed off, maybe saving the Doctor?) And as for the 4th Doctor I can't think of any other baddies in it more than once except the Sontarans and Davros! Yeah there was the Key to time and the black guardian stuff, but it's not that well known. Anyway, RTD did say, he always planned to have the Daleks first, Cybermen second, the Master third, and others after that. Maybe it is all coincidence, but, it all fits well. And I don't think it's totally awful.. So he might have sat down and listed from each series which major baddies to bring back? At least he had a plan! Saying that though, I have thought of a 5th Doctor baddie! The black guardian!