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Old 12-13-2020, 02:44 AM
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Watch it once for the connections to the rest of the MCU, but don't expect to enjoy yourself very much. Or maybe I'm just bored of fish-out-of-water plots, or amnesiac-must-rebuild-their-past-life plots, or whole-life-turns-out-to-be-a-lie plots, and so on and so forth.
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Who owns DS9?


An odd name for a video about the history of the station. After all, the answer is Bajor, of course. The Federation was only administering it, Starfleet was only protecting it.
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Old 12-17-2020, 10:16 PM
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So I'm reading a DS9 novel and there's a named Dominion ship in it...


PNQ: Does the Dominion seem like the kind of organization that would name its ships as opposed to alphanumerical designations?


Most known races name their ships for reasons that wouldn't apply to the Dominion, right? The Jem'Hadar and Vorta aren't bred with artistic sensibilities, and the Founders wouldn't want to follow the customs of solids, would they?
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:31 AM
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So I'm watching "Birthright" again...


PNQ: Did they do the "everyone thinks the food is awful except for Worf" joke more often than Riker's eggs and Geordi's pasta?
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Old 01-13-2021, 02:42 AM
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I found myself pondering this question. I'll expand the parameters...


PNQ1: When/if you have children old enough to watch Trek, in what order will you introduce them to the franchise?
PNQ2: What Trek won't you show them, letting them discover it on their own if they want to?


A key issue is that the primitive (I hesitate to say "cheap") style of TOS will be a major turnoff for some. I refer you to earlier comments I've made about people not liking black and white movies JUST because they're black and white, it's the same thing.


In many ways STIV would be a good intro, it's lighter on the scifi and heavier on the humor and character work. Too bad it refers to STII and STIII events.


PNQ3: Would the bite-sized nature of TAS be a reasonable introduction, or does it rely too much on TOS lore and '70s weirdness?
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PNQ1: When/if you have children old enough to watch Trek, in what order will you introduce them to the franchise?
I can answer this one really easily: I showed my daughter who she was named after first and let her make up her mind.

It probably was the wrong move, but she was curious and asked me.

(Her name's Annika, BTW.)
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I wouldn't try to introduce a child to ALL of TOS at once, but they should at least see Trouble With Tribbles, Balance of Terror, Journey to Babel, etc. towards the start.


Then TNG starting at Season Three.



I would never use TAS as an introduction to children. Yeah, it's only half an hour and it's a cartoon, but it's an OLD cartoon. Putting aside the continual references to TOS (which aren't a bad thing for older viewers who have seen TOS), it's cheaply animated and falls victim to the the old trap hole I've mentioned before: older filmmaking tech is offputting to those not used to it.
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I would never use TAS as an introduction to children. Yeah, it's only half an hour and it's a cartoon, but it's an OLD cartoon. Putting aside the continual references to TOS (which aren't a bad thing for older viewers who have seen TOS), it's cheaply animated and falls victim to the the old trap hole I've mentioned before: older filmmaking tech is offputting to those not used to it.
I can agree with this.

Hopefully Prodigy is a good jumping off point for younger audiences. I hope it will be good to go when my son is old enough to start understanding that stuff.
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