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I'm not sure whether I should be sending Derek some sleeping pills or some Klingon strength Coffee, but we definitely need to get him onto something...
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How about a series were 99.99% of the crew isn't humanoid and from America? :P
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:20 AM
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Uh, we already have that, Valium. It's called Doctor Who. :P
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Uh, we already have that, Valium. It's called Doctor Who. :P
So, that's what's so irritating about the new series :P
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Oi.... man, either the five-minute people are staying up so long because they like this place to the point of death, or they put it off until the end of the day. *Cringes, hoping not to get smacked by a hammer of smiting, or haggis pie.*

Anyway, it's possible that it's not the crews and the writing that are making people go away, but bad ship designs! Go back to the original (Refitted, of course!)
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I'd have to disagree there - the ship doesn't matter so much (though a nice design is always a plus), not compared to stuff like the writing and general creative vision of the show. The ship is more or less window dressing (though how that window dressing is used exactly does make a big difference, I'll concede).
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Well, what would you rather see as the primary ship of a new series? One of the Excelsior test models? (The REALLY UGLY ones.) Or the good ole' Connie Refit (Refitted again.)?

truth to tell, I'd watch any show with a connie on it any day....

heh, then again, I command one, so of course I would...
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I'm with Zeke here...a teen show would be not the best idea, and I think the main thing Trek has to do is take a rest, regroup, and then start from scratch, looking at what has worked in each series, and what hasn't. It's the only sane way to go about it. Getting some solid writers, a solid premise, and a solid outline of what could happen for the first season or two, would be more good steps.
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One of the Excelsior test models? (The REALLY UGLY ones.)
I contend that there's no such thing. :P

I honestly do not mind that much what ship they use, as long as it's in keeping with the era.
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I honestly do not mind that much what ship they use, as long as it's in keeping with the era.
And not chock-full of whiny academy-age kids?
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Oh, with the kids, definitely. Except there would be a horrible transporter malfunction in the second episode (one of the really goopy kinds), and thusly we'd see no more of them ever again.
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Oh, Vulcan science officer it must have, and no cadets there must be!
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Whoa, what a subject jump! I agree, more nonhumans would be nice, but I'd like to suggest that there be more of species we've seen before, and less people that represent their entire species, a la Morn.

You don't think cadets have interesting lives? I trust most of you either are in college or remember it. Those days were the most ... intense ... of our lives. Anything can happen. Everything will happen, in one form or another. Remember that Starfleet Academy is more than just another college. They regularly go to the moon and all over the Earth to experience new places, to come face-to-face with who they are and what they want to be. Granted Saved By the Bell in Space would be a bad direction for Trek, but what about something serious? How do these Ensigns learn all that they do? How do they see the legends of Starfleet? How did they get to the Academy? How do they deal with scenarios they've never seen before, like death, putting your fate in another's hands, being forced to make other people trust you because you're Starfleet and you're trained to do these things. That's drama, it's exploring the human condition, which is what I thought Trek was all about in the first place.
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Oh, with the kids, definitely. Except there would be a horrible transporter malfunction in the second episode (one of the really goopy kinds), and thusly we'd see no more of them ever again.
Howzabout one like we saw in DS9's "The Darkness and the Light"? :twisted:
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You don't think cadets have interesting lives? I trust most of you either are in college or remember it.
I think that's the problem...we're in it or remembering it. We don't to see a bunch of futuristic college students going through what we live, and what has been on Buffy and lots of other shows before. And also, college dramas can sometimes end being teen dramas...fake problems, fake solutions, fake fake fake.

Now, if Star Trek could come with Degrassi: Starfleet, and be as good and honest as the original Degrassi, maybe, just maybe, I'd watch.
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