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Old 12-17-2009, 10:04 PM
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Lots of people put fanfics on the site whether or not they wrote it. After all, fanfics have tropes too, right? So I thought it may be a nice way to drum up interest. And we do use a lot of tropes in our work. And Zeke is a fellow troper, so yeah...

Anyway, I'd like some discussion of what should be added to the page? Is there a single paragraph from a fiver that would be a good page quote to introduce us to the troper community? What would be the best image to use? And so forth.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:52 AM
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Actually, I've been pleasantly surprised to find several 5M.net links on the site already (I'm an inveterate hitcounter-checker). Besides people's profiles, we're recommended on the Voyager recaps page along with Delta Blues -- always good company to be in. And "How to Debate an Exploding Candidate", which included a shout-out to the Good Thing You Can Heal trope, has actually seen that shout-out returned.

I'd certainly have no problem with people starting a 5M.net page at TVT (and I'd be flattered). Due to the obvious conflict of interest, I probably shouldn't have too much to do with it myself.
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:21 AM
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Would you mind if I called the page Five Minute Voyager, with a Five Minute Dot Net redirect?

As for conflict of interest, we're in danger of that either way, aren't we?
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:23 AM
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That sounds awesome. Of course, I'm a troper myself, so I might just have to start plugging in a few places...
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:05 AM
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Of course we'd need a ptitle for "Fiveminute.Net", but what else is new?
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I should have guessed that you were all tropers, too.

Actually, this revelation explains most of the content of that site.

Awesome.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:46 AM
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I've started the page, but I'll need a lot of help to make this thing presentable.
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Lookin' good, Nate! I want to thank you for resisting the temptation -- which, knowing your feelings on the matter, was surely strong -- to link the April Fool's note to Wall Banger instead of Schedule Slip.

It's not a big deal, but given the choice, I would prefer FiveMinute.net as primary title instead of Five-Minute Voyager. I miss the 5MV days too, but that hasn't been our name since '05, and I still think changing it was the right move. (Anyway, the old name survives as the name of the Voyager subsite.)
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:12 AM
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Now that ptitles are so easy to make I didn't see a reason why we couldn't have fiveminute.net as the name of the page. I still plan to use the Five Minute Voyager redirect in other places because it's an easier link to use, however.

And as my contributor page says, I now intend to read all of the fivers again to find the tropes. It's been too long since I read the fivers, anyway, and I guess I kept falling under Archive Panic mode. But now I have a reason to read!
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:36 PM
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Mav, Wowwy, I'm not sure what your troper handles are, so if you want to substitute links to your contributor pages, that'd be great.
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Old 12-23-2009, 12:01 AM
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Tropes for the Caretaker fiver now up. Sheesh, if I don't restrain myself this page is going to be HUGE.
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:39 AM
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Parallax tropes now up. I am on a roll...
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I don't have a page yet. (I'm lazy.) But my Troper name is Darkloid_Blues. Also, I don't think I've ever actually gotten around to submitting a fiver. >> The only one I have written up in full is the one for NT Warrior Axess, anyway.
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Hmm. This does present a problem. Would you just prefer to not be mentioned on the page at all?

To return to business, as the number of episodes I post tropes for increase, I intend to folderize the sections. Should I make the folders series-specific, season-specific, or what? Input is appreciated.
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I think you should categorise by trope and then have episode examples listed under Lampshade Hanging, Call Foward, Completely Missing The Point, etc.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:14 AM
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Lumping by trope works with other works, but fiveminute.net is different. With fivers it's a lot faster just to present excerpts than summarize what's going on into terse examples. And if I'm reading one fiver at at time it's a lot easier to post in sections than sort the new entries among the old ones every time. And there are A LOT of fivers to come.

Besides, a lot of the excerpts will serve as examples of more than one trope at a time, and I don't want to have to post twice.

Eventually I'll probably split series-specific pages off of the main fiveminute.net page, keeping the main page for common fiver tropes in addition to being a hub.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:07 AM
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Honestly, not mentioning me might be better.

Annnnd I think we should stick to TV Tropes standard format for the examples, too. It's a bit jarring the way it is now.
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You're probably right, but that's just going to increase the amount of work I'll have to do exponentially. In fact, I'll probably have to maintain a copy of the page on my computer to fiddle around with and just paste back to TVTropes every so often to update.

Next question. Should I link episode titles back to their corresponding fivers? It would be a considerate thing to do to help those ignorant of our fair site, but it would be A LOT of work.
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Since 5M.net has used more tropes in more concentrated form than possibly any other fictional work in the history of the world, it might be a lot easier (and a lot shorter) to go through every trope in the Trope Database and find one example from fiver canon.

Yeah, I think linking episode titles is important, because, y'know, people are stupid and tropers, while rarely stupid, are usually pretty lazy. :P
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:08 AM
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I've now restructured the page so all the tropes are in one big stack, with episode titles linked to the individual fiver pages. Sheesh, that was a lot of work.
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