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First look trailer.
For the purposes of this post alone, no comparison to any other Trek show allowed. 1. Forcing a fellow officer to trudge through a desert for no particular reason is cruel. It almost seems belittling, like the fellow officer deserves no more respect than a cadet. Why are we supposed to like this captain? And remember, a lot of the ratings depend on us liking the captain. 2. "We have engaged the Klingons." Well, that's just bad grammar. We have engaged a Klingon ship/fleet, we have engaged with Klingon forces, etc. 3. The notion of "screw diplomacy, we have to fight" is simply a bad lesson to introduce the audience to a conflict. We know nothing about these Klingons, what they've done, or whether or not the Discovery is authorized to initiate hostilities. It does seem a bit like pandering: "Don't worry, viewers at home, there's going to be a lot of action!" 4. An alien that can sense the coming of death. Well, that makes for good clickbait for one episode, but I hope he's not a regular, because it'll make problems later on. Either he's going to be sensing deaths with complete accuracy, robbing us of drama, or he can't sense deaths with complete accuracy, which means the viewer is asking why he's there taking up screentime. There's only so many times a viewer will accept that kind of ooga-booga, only for the supposedly doomed person to not die. 5. It was nice to hear the fanfare. (Okay, that was a comparison, but at least it's a positive one for a change.)
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A breakdown of the trailer.
Okay, NOW I can complain about continuity again. Gold for Command, Silver for Science, Bronze for Operations. So we're in the mid-2250s according to the studio. Let's move past the fact that "The Cage" already established what the basic design of a Starfleet uniform looked like in this time period. It should be Gold for Command, BLUE for Science, and RED for Operations. Even the Kelvinverse got a detail like this right. Even ENTERPRISE got a detail like this right! Why weren't the standard TOS uniforms acceptable? It sure would've gone a long way towards cashing in on that TOS nostalgia that Paramount seems to think is the key to success. And isn't that the point: to make money?
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I'll just quote a comment here:
"Unless you are going to negate the previous story lines, etc. & create a new, ‘re-imagined’ Star Trek, you need to follow the basic Trek story & timeline. If ‘Discovery’ is after ‘Enterprise’ & just before TOS, then the Klingons look should look like they did in TOS. But more importantly, Star Trek in whatever form, is at its best when it is story-driven, & when it addresses issues. Makeup & special effects should serve the story, not be the focus of it. Roddenberry didn’t create an ‘adventure’ series. He created a sci-fi series as an avenue to address social, political & moral issues. The idea that the latest incarnation of Star Trek needs to ‘out-FX’ the last version misses the point of what Star Trek is supposed to be & why it exists in the first place."
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Fans are told to stop worrying about Discovery fitting into canon.
Yeah, good luck with that. We were TOLD this is the Prime Universe, therefore we have the right to complain about conflicts. Easiest way to solve the problems? Declare this to be a universe separate from Prime or Kelvin. Done. No conflict, any similarities are coincidence. But did they go this route? No, they did not. Harry Mudd confirmed for nine episodes. Assuming that they mean that they're all in Season One, that's over half the episodes. I predict comic relief fatigue. Harry's the kind of guy that you can only do once per season, maybe two if a really good script comes along. Remember how NextGen did their best to not overexpose Q?
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Why Discovery has to be a reboot
They even make a convincing argument that this is the SIXTH reboot, not even the second.
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So would that article convince you to give Enterprise the time of day?
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