The Five-Minute Forums  

Go Back   The Five-Minute Forums > FiveMinute.net > Science Fiction

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-26-2005, 12:41 PM
Chancellor Valium's Avatar
Chancellor Valium Chancellor Valium is offline
Reasonably priced male pills
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Rhen Var, sitting on a radiator...
Posts: 4,595
Send a message via MSN to Chancellor Valium
Default Question for all you TOSer's

Why is the punishment attached to General Order VII death?
Sure, I can see the danger of Talos IV and the Talosians with their illusion power, but not being allowed under ANY circumstances and punishable by death seems extreme...Does anyone know or have any theories as to why?
__________________
O to be wafted away
From this black aceldama of sorrow;
Where the dust of an earthy today
Is the earth of a dusty tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Derek's Avatar
Derek Derek is offline
Dean of misderektion
Senior Staff
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sector 001
Posts: 1,106
Default

It was drafted by Starfleet's Mirror Universe counterparts, but due to a freak replicator accident, an admiral received that instead of the steak he ordered.

Meanwhile in the Mirror Universe, the aide for the admiral returned with the steak instead of the papers. The admiral was so mad that he beat the aide up with the steak and then took one of his golf clubs and drove it through the aide's heart. It was the first reported incident of someone being clubbed with a steak and then staked with a club.
__________________
"Please, Aslan," said Lucy, "what do you call soon?"
"I call all times soon," said Aslan; and instantly he vanished away and Lucy was alone with the Magician.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-26-2005, 05:09 PM
Chancellor Valium's Avatar
Chancellor Valium Chancellor Valium is offline
Reasonably priced male pills
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Rhen Var, sitting on a radiator...
Posts: 4,595
Send a message via MSN to Chancellor Valium
Default

Tell me, have the men in white coats visited you yet today?
:P
__________________
O to be wafted away
From this black aceldama of sorrow;
Where the dust of an earthy today
Is the earth of a dusty tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-26-2005, 08:57 PM
PointyHairedJedi's Avatar
PointyHairedJedi PointyHairedJedi is offline
He'd enjoy a third pie
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Scotlands
Posts: 4,354
Send a message via ICQ to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via AIM to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via Yahoo to PointyHairedJedi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek
It was drafted by Starfleet's Mirror Universe counterparts, but due to a freak replicator accident, an admiral received that instead of the steak he ordered.

Meanwhile in the Mirror Universe, the aide for the admiral returned with the steak instead of the papers. The admiral was so mad that he beat the aide up with the steak and then took one of his golf clubs and drove it through the aide's heart. It was the first reported incident of someone being clubbed with a steak and then staked with a club.
You have the makings of a fine MC player about you, sir.
__________________
Mason: Luckily we at the Agency use use a high-tech piece of software that will let us spot him instantly via high-res satellite images.
Sergeant: You can? That's amazing!
Mason: Yes. We call it 'Google Earth'.
- Five Minute 24 S1 (it lives, honest!)

"Everybody loves pie!"
- Spongebob Squarepants
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-26-2005, 10:10 PM
Derek's Avatar
Derek Derek is offline
Dean of misderektion
Senior Staff
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sector 001
Posts: 1,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PointyHairedJedi
You have the makings of a fine MC player about you, sir.
Thanks!

(What's an MC player?)
__________________
"Please, Aslan," said Lucy, "what do you call soon?"
"I call all times soon," said Aslan; and instantly he vanished away and Lucy was alone with the Magician.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-26-2005, 11:26 PM
PointyHairedJedi's Avatar
PointyHairedJedi PointyHairedJedi is offline
He'd enjoy a third pie
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Scotlands
Posts: 4,354
Send a message via ICQ to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via AIM to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via Yahoo to PointyHairedJedi
Default

Mornington Crescent.

It's complete lies of course. That article makes it seem like it's some kind of silly made up game with no rules whatsoever, which of course is patently not the case as any true devotee of MC knows.
__________________
Mason: Luckily we at the Agency use use a high-tech piece of software that will let us spot him instantly via high-res satellite images.
Sergeant: You can? That's amazing!
Mason: Yes. We call it 'Google Earth'.
- Five Minute 24 S1 (it lives, honest!)

"Everybody loves pie!"
- Spongebob Squarepants
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-27-2005, 08:06 AM
Scooter's Avatar
Scooter Scooter is offline
Doctoral candidate
Staff
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Earth, again
Posts: 831
Send a message via AIM to Scooter
Default Re: Question for all you TOSer's

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chancellor Valium
Why is the punishment attached to General Order VII death?
Sure, I can see the danger of Talos IV and the Talosians with their illusion power, but not being allowed under ANY circumstances and punishable by death seems extreme...Does anyone know or have any theories as to why?
So anyway. Working from "The Menagerie" it seems that Starfleet instituted a death penalty as a deterrent in order to keep all Federation personnel away, since they would be unable to avoid the degredation being turned into zoo specimens (the Talosians having learned from Pike's escape).

Beyond this, one can posit that Starfleet also feared an unstoppable invasion from Talosians controlling their personnel and equipment.

Of course, the real reason was to make Spock's mutiny extra spicy.
__________________
An updated list of all my online writing can be found here. Check it out.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-27-2005, 04:48 PM
Chancellor Valium's Avatar
Chancellor Valium Chancellor Valium is offline
Reasonably priced male pills
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Rhen Var, sitting on a radiator...
Posts: 4,595
Send a message via MSN to Chancellor Valium
Default

It's still a rather stupid reason. What if someone tested it?
__________________
O to be wafted away
From this black aceldama of sorrow;
Where the dust of an earthy today
Is the earth of a dusty tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-28-2005, 03:26 AM
ijdgaf's Avatar
ijdgaf ijdgaf is offline
Unabridged
Senior Staff
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hurricaneland
Posts: 791
Send a message via ICQ to ijdgaf Send a message via AIM to ijdgaf Send a message via MSN to ijdgaf
Default

I like to think of it as Starfleet showing they meant business. They made a lot of restrictions and rules regarding space travel I'm sure, but this was one where they seriously weren't screwing around.

We have to keep in mind that this was before Gene got tripped out on his pristine, utopian future kick. Betterment of mankind and all that. TOS took place in a grittier, hairier universe than TNG. So it's not all so surprising that such oddities exist.
__________________
YOU READ IT...

...YOU CAN\'T UNREAD IT!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-28-2005, 05:34 AM
Michiel's Avatar
Michiel Michiel is offline
Last of the ko fighters
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 523
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PointyHairedJedi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek
It was drafted by Starfleet's Mirror Universe counterparts, but due to a freak replicator accident, an admiral received that instead of the steak he ordered.

Meanwhile in the Mirror Universe, the aide for the admiral returned with the steak instead of the papers. The admiral was so mad that he beat the aide up with the steak and then took one of his golf clubs and drove it through the aide's heart. It was the first reported incident of someone being clubbed with a steak and then staked with a club.
You have the makings of a fine MC player about you, sir.
The story also has more than some Douglas Adams in it. Good job. 8)
__________________
The strength of a civilization is not measured by its ability
to wage wars, but rather by its ability to prevent them.
- Gene Roddenberry
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-28-2005, 03:19 PM
Chancellor Valium's Avatar
Chancellor Valium Chancellor Valium is offline
Reasonably priced male pills
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Rhen Var, sitting on a radiator...
Posts: 4,595
Send a message via MSN to Chancellor Valium
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijdgaf
I like to think of it as Starfleet showing they meant business. They made a lot of restrictions and rules regarding space travel I'm sure, but this was one where they seriously weren't screwing around.

We have to keep in mind that this was before Gene got tripped out on his pristine, utopian future kick. Betterment of mankind and all that. TOS took place in a grittier, hairier universe than TNG. So it's not all so surprising that such oddities exist.
Interesting idea......


....but Derek's seems much more logical :mrgreen:
__________________
O to be wafted away
From this black aceldama of sorrow;
Where the dust of an earthy today
Is the earth of a dusty tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-29-2005, 06:19 PM
PointyHairedJedi's Avatar
PointyHairedJedi PointyHairedJedi is offline
He'd enjoy a third pie
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Scotlands
Posts: 4,354
Send a message via ICQ to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via AIM to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via Yahoo to PointyHairedJedi
Default

You know, perhaps that's why all the Commodores disappeared? Starfleet finally got fed up of perfectly good captains going totally nuts or losing all their judgement the moment they were promoted, so they shipped the lot off Talos IV where they couldn't be a nuisance any more. It also explains the general order - after all, who'd want those guys back if they could possibly help it?
__________________
Mason: Luckily we at the Agency use use a high-tech piece of software that will let us spot him instantly via high-res satellite images.
Sergeant: You can? That's amazing!
Mason: Yes. We call it 'Google Earth'.
- Five Minute 24 S1 (it lives, honest!)

"Everybody loves pie!"
- Spongebob Squarepants
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-31-2005, 09:52 PM
Chancellor Valium's Avatar
Chancellor Valium Chancellor Valium is offline
Reasonably priced male pills
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Rhen Var, sitting on a radiator...
Posts: 4,595
Send a message via MSN to Chancellor Valium
Default

Maybe...
__________________
O to be wafted away
From this black aceldama of sorrow;
Where the dust of an earthy today
Is the earth of a dusty tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-01-2005, 12:30 AM
ijdgaf's Avatar
ijdgaf ijdgaf is offline
Unabridged
Senior Staff
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hurricaneland
Posts: 791
Send a message via ICQ to ijdgaf Send a message via AIM to ijdgaf Send a message via MSN to ijdgaf
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PointyHairedJedi
You know, perhaps that's why all the Commodores disappeared? Starfleet finally got fed up of perfectly good captains going totally nuts or losing all their judgement the moment they were promoted, so they shipped the lot off Talos IV where they couldn't be a nuisance any more. It also explains the general order - after all, who'd want those guys back if they could possibly help it?
Thinking like that could get you work under Manny Coto!
__________________
YOU READ IT...

...YOU CAN\'T UNREAD IT!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-02-2005, 02:53 PM
PointyHairedJedi's Avatar
PointyHairedJedi PointyHairedJedi is offline
He'd enjoy a third pie
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Scotlands
Posts: 4,354
Send a message via ICQ to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via AIM to PointyHairedJedi Send a message via Yahoo to PointyHairedJedi
Default

Gee, thanks, I guess... :P
__________________
Mason: Luckily we at the Agency use use a high-tech piece of software that will let us spot him instantly via high-res satellite images.
Sergeant: You can? That's amazing!
Mason: Yes. We call it 'Google Earth'.
- Five Minute 24 S1 (it lives, honest!)

"Everybody loves pie!"
- Spongebob Squarepants
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.