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Old 11-03-2004, 07:21 PM
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Well, he won. And now I realize how stupid America is.

All I have to say to the majority is "baaahhh".
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You don't have to stay in the US. You could come over to Britain, or go to Canada, for example.....
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:39 PM
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Well, he won. And now I realize how stupid America is.
I didn't vote for Bush either. But please don't bash my country. I don't go around criticizing your president/ministor/what have you. There is no reason for that. It was a close race. They two candidates were almost equal, Bush just happend to pull forward. That's politics.

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Old 11-03-2004, 10:50 PM
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I'm from America, and I'll still say it. I don't have the money or the ability to move somewhere else, I'm stuck. Otherwise, I would be out of here.

The majority here is dumb. Take my parents... they watch nothing but Fox News for their information. It isn't that difficult, take the initiative, do a little research, and if you aren't a psychopath you'd realize he's the wrong choice. But nobody here will do that, we're too lazy and we're too set in our ways. Between ignorance and pandering, nobody in this country seems to have an original thought of their own anymore, and it's sad. I used to blame just Bush and his administration, for stealing the election in 2000 because the Democrats gave up, but now that he's been re-elected legitimately after all he's done, I find the majority of this country reprehensible. That's my opinion, and now I'm over it.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:13 PM
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Atleast it was close though, he didn't win in some kind of landslide. So that makses roughly half the people who voted sane. (Which half depending on your own personal viewpoint.)

And look how many people turned out to vote, especialy compared to previos years. Doen't that show that more people are taking an initiative?

I'm English, so I guess I don't realy have much right to say that realy but thats what I think. Anyway, were not supposed to talk politics here.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:22 PM
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Doesn't matter if you're taking the initiative to vote in a moron.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:26 PM
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Take my parents... they watch nothing but Fox News for their information.
Fox News isn't broadcasted in Canada (for valid reasons or otherwise, depending on who you ask), but from what I've seen and heard, I sympathize.
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:28 PM
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Between ignorance and pandering, nobody in this country seems to have an original thought of their own anymore, and it's sad.
True enough. I've seen similar posts to this one all over the internet today.

It's not the originality of the thought that counts, but the reasons for it. There are good, solid, justifiable reasons for voting for Bush. There are good, solid, justifiable reasons for voting for Kerry. It's entirely possible to do a lot of research on the candidates and their positions and still decide on Bush. I'm sorry you don't see that.
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Yes, people are entitled to different opinions, thats the point of democrasy.

There was some quote from Bush about how a dictatorship would be much easyer as long as it was him dictating. That might have been an extremely inaproaprate thing to say but everyone thinks something along those lines right? (Well I hope its not just me and him.. be scared.) So thats why you sometimes have to let morons win elections. Well when its fair.

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Get over it.

Move on.
I agree.

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Old 11-04-2004, 12:58 AM
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I didn't say it was impossible to go for Bush if you researched, I just find it unlikely that most people with common sense would.
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Get over it.

Move on.
Get over it indeed. The man's not Hitler. We've survived crappy presidents and we'll do it again.

People were crying at school today because Kerry lost. I couldn't believe it.

Then again, I shouldn't really be talking, as I'm the one who cried when Tea At Five got postponed.



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Fine, I'm over it. Zeke, close the damn thread.
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well I'm an example of someone with common sense and someone who researched and watched Fox News and watched the debates and guess who we voted for? George Bush. We have many reasons for it but trying to explain them to anyone who doesn't like George Bush isn't going to listen I've learned that all week. anyways, just thought I'd give you the other side.
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Well, he won. And now I realize how stupid America is.

All I have to say to the majority is "baaahhh".
Oh God yes. Baah to them all. I can't believe that Mister Bush (as we call him in Wiltshire --> Wootton Bassett --> Wootton Bassett Comprehensive) not only won, but also got the highest number of votes in American voting history. I mean, you would have thought they would have learnt by now. 1 million people plus are unemployed because of outsourcing to India (my mom just lost her job to that, so I'm pretty cut up about it. Grrr....), over one hundred Americans have died in the Iraq war, blah blah blah American mind-set blah blah og gosh I'm starting to sound like my father :?
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Ahem. I am not a psychopath, yet I dislike Kerry - I'm sorry, I do. But then I am ludicrously right-wing, to a point where I could just about balance Anthony Wedgewood-Benn...if you don't know who he is, take Vedra's advice, do a little research and FIND OUT. back to my point - wait, I can't remember what my point is. Hm. Maybe I should - ah yes. Bush isn't Hitler - a moustache would look crap on him :P. Seriously, he's not that bad - he manages your country reasonably - he's no Woodrow Wilson, I'll admit, but he's better than some, and while he can't charm people like FDR, he does seem to have some integrity. Sorry, I keep posting about this, but this seems to be all people are talking about. Bush has been villainised and I have to feel sorry for him at least a bit,( I always favour the underdog or the villainised - that's why I was intrigued by Nader - until I found out he was green*) - yes villainised by people. He started a war on terror that he means to continue. Just because it isn't easy and plain sailing in Iraq and your commanders are having a hard time there, as they did in Afghanistan, people whinge. No conventional army has ever successfully overrun Afghanistan before, not even the Victorian British Army, so you have something to be proud of. This wasn't going to be easy, but you cannot give up. and you can't pull out of Iraq, because that will show the terrorists that they can influence western politics - also that the Iraqi provisional government would be unable to maintain the peace and the British army has been whittled to the point where we would be unable to take the full load. Your generals planned for war and not peace, and that was their undoing. Ours have been through experiences such as Northern Ireland and we know about peacekeeping. Also, ask yourselves - was Saddam a good person? Answer: no. So something good has come out of this war on a false pretext. Sorry, I didn't mean to go on, I just feel people shouldn't get worked up or bitter about the whole thing and I just wanted to point out all my reasons.
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Ho-hum. I could have sworn I was logged in.... :?
that was me as "guest", by the way...
Just one good thing to come out of this election, though - we can still make jokes about how stupid Bush is . I'll just give a second apology for my rant.
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Just one good thing to come out of this election, though - we can still make jokes about how stupid Bush is
That actually does make me feel a little better :twisted: :mrgreen:

(Btw Valium, you actually think Britain has an empire? :roll: :wink: )
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It's hanging by a thread, but it's still there. And I want to resurrect it . That means goodbye independant US, btw....
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I won't get into that Iraq invasion crap again, so I'll condense: US = no right to be there, Saddam = bad guy, but at least could RUN HIS COUNTRY, Oil = ripe for the picking, suspicious maybe?

America needs to get over itself and we need to stop trying to police the world. It doesn't matter if we're a superpower, it doesn't matter if we're the ONLY superpower, we're still just one nation, just like all the others. You talk about the terrorists influencing our politics, don't you think ripping out Iraq's old government and installing one of America's design is "influencing" their politics?
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