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Wowbagger
06-17-2012, 06:11 AM
Rules:
(1) Name the source episode.
(2) Guessers must get it from memory; no Google or reference books.
(3) Two guesses allowed per post.
(4) You can guess again as soon as someone else has guessed.
(5) First to answer correctly must give the next quote.
We'll begin with this classic: "I love all jazz, except Dixieland."
Nate the Great
06-17-2012, 01:06 PM
Minuet in "10011001", or whatever that binary number is. She doesn't like Dixieland because you can't dance to it.
"I'm staring into the abyss. And the worst part is, my only hope for salvation is the Federation."
Sa'ar Chasm
06-17-2012, 04:25 PM
Quark in...uhhh...the DS9 episode where the Klingons invade Cardassia, whining to Garak about how his bar will go broke because there won't be anymore Cardassians to buy his fish sauce or the corn syrup they call booze.
I think.
"A simple yes would have sufficed."
Picard in "Where Silence Has Lease". Great episode. (And the DS9 ep is called "Way of the Warrior".)
"No good deed goes unpunished."
Wowbagger
06-18-2012, 01:00 AM
"The Enemy". It's also the 285th Rule of Acquisition, so it must show up elsewhere, but I know it only from LaForge's line in "The Enemy."
Next up: "They had brains the size of a walnut. That's very small."
That's a really funny coincidence. Archer says that in "Azati Prime" when he's getting beaten up -- and the one I actually had in mind for my quote is another such episode, namely "The Andorian Incident." (Trip says it there.) It came to my mind because I happened to make the TV Tropes page (http://bit.ly/Mk3nJR) for this idea; I should've remembered there was more than one Trek example.
[ETA: I just checked; "The Collaborator" and "The Sound of Her Voice" are the episodes where Quark quotes that particular rule. It's the 285th and last.]
"I know you'll try. And I know you'll FAIL!"
Since it's been a day now, I'll narrow it down: the episode is from VOY S2.
No one? It's from "Threshold". Tom's accelerated evolution comes with a nervous breakdown, and the quote is from a startling bit where he lashes out at Janeway (right into a forcefield). I've made as much fun of that episode as anybody, but it's not all bad; McNeill is good in it, and there are dialogue and character beats that are worthwhile. Only the plot and premise are irredeemable.
Since nobody got mine, I'll go again.
"Perhaps the words are more important than the man."
Wowbagger
06-20-2012, 06:12 AM
I don't think it's First Contact, but it's the kind of thing you say about a famous person right after unexpectedly meeting him/her...
Ooo. "The Savage Curtain." Maybe?
Nope. I wonder if NAHTMMM's around... this one is a dead giveaway if you've read a particular Trek novel, and he's read a lot of them.
NAHTMMM
06-20-2012, 08:10 PM
Oh! Oh, um . . . drawing a blank. Wowbagger's guess was a good one, though. :) It sounds like something Data might say.
KJ thinks it sounds familiar, but she can't place it either.
I'm going to guess it's the movie First Contact though. (Wowbagger didn't actually guess it, after all.) Considering what we see of Cochrane in that, and how important he is in Federation, and all that.
[edit] Actually, you know what, I think Picard says it at some point. (KJ agrees.)
Right series, wrong speaker. Hint: The line is said to Worf.
(Heh, the login form just asked "Remember Me?" Nope, wrong episode.)
NAHTMMM
06-21-2012, 12:24 AM
Yeah, it's the one where they fuss over Kahless showing up again, isn't it. I don't know the name.
There ya go. The episode is "Rightful Heir". The Kahless clone is arguing that Worf shouldn't agonize over the actual truth of his faith, because "If [Kahless'] words hold wisdom and his philosophy is honourable, what does it really matter if he returns?" (It's a good speech, but could only have been written by someone who just does not get religion at all, concept or execution.)
The book where that line comes up again is <i>Kahless</i> by Michael Jan Friedman. It's an odd book continuing an odd storyline. In it, we learn that (a) Kahless was just a guy, and (b) it doesn't matter, because the current Kahless wasn't even cloned from the just-a-guy Kahless, but from his friend Morath. The clone didn't know this, and when he's struggling with the revelation, Worf turns the speech from "Rightful Heir" back on him for encouragement. It's sort of a "You are a TOY!" moment.
Identifying an episode uniquely should count as a win even without remembering the title, no? You're up next, NAH.
NAHTMMM
06-21-2012, 01:57 PM
Haven't read that one.
Okay, let's go with an easy one:
"We’re human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands, but we can stop it. We can admit that we’re killers, but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes. Knowing that we won’t kill today."
Ah, the classic Kirk speech from "A Taste of Armageddon". The whole not-to-kill-today thing sounds trivial but is really kind of profound.
Here's a line I gave to Phlox in a fiver once: "What you call genocide, I call a day's work." Where's it really from?
No takers so far? Okay, it's from early DS9. (When Wowbagger and I were playing this game on Facebook originally, we used a deadline of 24 hours before revealing the answer, or at least narrowing it down. Seems sensible to do so here too.)
Nate the Great
06-23-2012, 01:11 PM
Ugh. SF Debris reviewed this one recently. That Cardassian clerk who was feeling so ashamed of his minimal involvement with the Occupation that he was pretending to be a major war criminal.
You don't like "Duet"? Wow. But yeah, that's where it's from. You're up next.
Nate the Great
06-23-2012, 06:22 PM
No, the "ugh" was mostly shame at knowing this one. It's a relatively obscure episode, and I never would've known without the SF Debris review.
"It'll take years just to decipher this matrix."
Never be ashamed of knowledge. It's power, y'know.
Technobabble is hard to trace to a specific episode... let me try "Drone" and "The Kir'Shara".
Wowbagger
06-24-2012, 06:58 AM
Shot, meet dark.
"One"?
Nate the Great
06-24-2012, 12:55 PM
Not even close. Try again.
Okay, let's try "The Nth Degree" and "Emissary". If not, I'd say it's hint time.
Nate the Great
06-25-2012, 01:10 AM
Okay. The following line is:
"Yes, but you'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice."
Oh! <i>Star Trek IV</i>, the transparent aluminum scene. I remember that second line well because it's always sounded odd to me. Normally "beyond the wildest dreams of..." is followed by who's doing the dreaming, or at least what they're dreaming about, not the emotion the dreams are motivated by.
I'm surprised nobody got that. I've stayed away from the movies so far because it's more common to watch them multiple times than any individual episode.
Here's my next: "I just want you to know that I have the utmost respect for the law."
Sa'ar Chasm
06-25-2012, 06:03 AM
Riker in Time's Arrow Part II, just before he decks the 19th-Century cop.
(I wanted to go with Rivals for that dreams of avarice one, but I think that may have been from the fiver, not the actual episode)
This one's two lines, since either one could probably turn up in just about any conversation.
"You're back early."
"He made me leave."
"Progress" from DS9 S1?
And yes, that avarice line is used in the "Rivals" fiver, which was by... oh, I see. I <i>see</i>. Well played.
Sa'ar Chasm
06-25-2012, 05:33 PM
Yeah, that's the only reason I made the connection.
Also, incorrect. DS9 hadn't made it to afternoon syndication yet (gawd, I'm old).
Also, somebody leaving isn't a major part of the plot.
Yes, but it was still a bit sneaky to say you <i>thought</i> it was in the fiver. Now that we're on the subject, this is making me think someone should start a similar thread in 5M.net Talk for fiver quotes... though with a "not from your own" proviso.
Hmm. That makes it TOS, TNG, or early VOY (but probably not the latter, which wasn't in any kind of syndication yet). Let's try "Ethics" and "Hide and Q".
Sa'ar Chasm
06-26-2012, 03:16 PM
Plus I don't watch VOY - well, OK, I watched the first season, but not enough to memorise it.
You're getting closer - one of the guest stars in Ethics was one of the speakers, and he made his first appearance in this episode.
Ah... that sounds like Alexander, and depending whether you mean the character or the actor, it's either "Reunion" or "New Ground". Fortunately, I have two guesses.
Sa'ar Chasm
06-27-2012, 06:25 AM
Character, so Reunion. I wasn't really aware there were multiple Alexanders, since they were all so whiny and annoying.
The full scene:
K'ehylar (like hell I'm going to try and spell like): You're back early
Alexander: (whiny, about Worf) He made me leave.
K: Then you should go to your room and play.
Worf: He knows nothing of our ways.
K: Our ways? You mean Klingon ways.
W: He *is* Klingon!
K: He is also my son, and I am half-human.
Why I can remember that and not anything useful, I have no idea. I think ITV got stuck on a 4th-season loop for a while.
Ahh. For the record, Alexander has been played by four different actors: Jon-Paul Steuer ("Reunion"), Brian Bonsall (the rest of TNG -- this is the one most people would picture first), Marc Worden (those dumb DS9 appearances), and frequent Trek guest star James Sloyan ("No, really. That's impossible. <a href="../nextgen/fiver.php?ep=firstborn">You're like fifty.</a>") This happens all the time with child characters, and in fact VOY's Naomi Wildman has the exact same tally: three actors for different stages of growth and one more for an alternate future.
"The stegosaurus was a herbivore."
ENT:
Trip to Malcolm in "Future Tense."
Trip to Malcolm in "Future Tense."
Malcolm to Trip in "Future Tense."
:D one of my favorite eps. (plus it's "an" herbivore)
My quote:
"Lying is a skill like any other, and if you want to maintain a level of excellence, you have to practice constantly."
Heh, shoulda known that would be a freebie for you, evay. (And personally, I've always voiced the H in "herbivore"... though not in "herb", now that I think about it.)
Yours is a classic Garak line, but I can't place the episode. I'll see if someone knows for sure before guessing.
Sa'ar Chasm
06-28-2012, 04:18 AM
The Die Is Cast, where Garak and Worf head to the Gamma Quadrant to find some things, only the things Garak is looking for aren't the things he tells Worf he's looking for.
He keeps his lying skills honed by convincing Worf he wants to join Starfleet. Worf buys it until Garak suggests that with his skills experience he should be bumped up until he outranks Worf.
"I hate Temporal Mechanics."
Ooooh. Sa'ar, right episode, wrong title. "The Die is Cast" involved Garak and <i>Odo</i> heading to the Gamma Quadrant to find some things, albeit in Romulan custody.
(Side note: I wonder how many people had a minor coronary thinking Garak was serious about joining Starfleet? I was okay with Nog going legit, but Rom was really pushing it.)
Sa'ar Chasm
06-28-2012, 07:43 AM
Consarn it! Well, I can't come up with it right now, so it's a freebie to anyone who can.
Wowbagger
06-28-2012, 09:06 AM
Can I please win simply by posting this?
http://i.imgur.com/LK21K.jpg (http://imgur.com/LK21K)
If not, there is no good reason for Worf and Garak to be in the G.Q. except if they are about to be captured and held in a Dominion internment camp. So "In Purgatory's Shadow." I have no memory of why Garak was there, though it probably had something to do with his dad being in the camp, too.
"In Purgatory's Shadow" it is. :)
Yep. But I just now noticed evay had <i>her</i> title wrong too... the stegosaurus time loop is in "Future Tense", not "Cease Fire". Since her post otherwise made it clear that she had the right episode, and she got to post the next quote, the same should go for Sa'ar now. But from now on, it's title-way or the hightle-way.
So the current quote is the one Sa'ar posted earlier: "I hate temporal mechanics."
(Wowbagger: They were there because Garak had decoded what turned out to be a distress call from Tain. Did you make that pic?)
*doh* I was hoping you hadn't caught that before I fixed it. :) But yes, I screwed up.
Wowbagger
06-29-2012, 06:44 AM
(Wowbagger: They were there because Garak had decoded what turned out to be a distress call from Tain. Did you make that pic?)
Ah, yes. Sadly, no.
Of course, many starship captains have complained about time travel, but I don't remember anyone referring to the field as "temporal mechanics" until after TNG ended. My money's on Janeway, simply because VOY had so much time travel and Janeway complained about time travel episodes more than once.
"Shattered"? Next guess... "Year of Hell, Part I"?
Nope. Remember, Sa'ar's VOY quotient is low. (I'm disqualified this round; I looked the quote up to see if it was in the same scene as another one I'd posted in the FB game earlier. It wasn't.)
Sa'ar Chasm
06-29-2012, 07:36 AM
Remember, Sa'ar's VOY quotient is low infinitesimal
It's non-zero, but very small.
*pause*
Didn't this board used to have buttons for font effects?
vBulletin is a flighty mistress -- that's why I've always allowed HTML. Use <s>.
Wowbagger
07-01-2012, 06:51 PM
Nope. Remember, Sa'ar's VOY quotient is low.
Then let's go with DS9's greatest time travel hater: the Chief.
"Visionary." If it isn't that or "Past Tense" (I or II), I give up.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-01-2012, 07:50 PM
That's the one, Visionary.
Thinking back on that episode, it's clear that the writers have absolutely no clue how causality works, and they threw in that "I hate temporal mechanics" line to lampshade the fact that the entire episode makes no sense.
Right, what's the next quote?
Wowwwwwwbagger...
Hmm. Board needs a poke feature.
Wowbagger
07-04-2012, 07:20 AM
WHOA. I got that right?
Yes, board much needs a poke feature. And I should probably just go ahead and make this thread my home page.
Next quote is... Hm.
"You people are even uglier than I remember."
NAHTMMM
07-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Hmm. Clearly that's "Devil in the Dim", where the Mother Horta and Enterprise crew cross paths in a low-lit, smoky karaoke nightclub in the shady districts of Risa.
Or maybe it's the one where Riker is kidnapped and his mind messed with.
Wowbagger
07-05-2012, 05:51 AM
Nope! But I really want to see that episode now. I assume it's TAS?
Let's try Archer in "Azati Prime" again. Otherwise, it's probably an ugly alien talking about humans (Trek loves those little ironies). "Lonely Among Us"?
NAHTMMM
07-07-2012, 01:51 AM
Nope! But I really want to see that episode now. I assume it's TAS?
Actually, I just made that one up. But we should totally go back in time and convince someone to make it for TAS. And then go forward and get Gene Roddenberry drunk enough to allow it as canon.
Wowbagger
07-08-2012, 06:54 AM
Let's try Archer in "Azati Prime" again. Otherwise, it's probably an ugly alien talking about humans (Trek loves those little ironies). "Lonely Among Us"?
It is Archer, but it's not "Azati Prime".
Actually, I just made that one up. But we should totally go back in time and convince someone to make it for TAS.
I assume all nonsense Star Trek plots were, in some permutation of some universe, made into a TAS episode.
Hmmm! "Through a Mirror, Darkly"?
Wowbagger
07-09-2012, 01:43 AM
Nope! Right season, though.
"Babel One" or "United"? Archer had seen a Tellarite before...
Wowbagger
07-09-2012, 03:10 AM
"Babel One" it is, and a Tellarite it is! You're up.
Let's go with a classic, one of the lines I've most often referenced in fivers: "Sometimes you just have to punch your way through."
Now to look up the context for that Archer quote, because I have no idea why he was being so rude...
Let's go with a classic, one of the lines I've most often referenced in fivers: "Sometimes you just have to punch your way through."
Now to look up the context for that Archer quote, because I have no idea why he was being so rude...
Are you sure that wasn't Janeway talking about whipping Voyager through the twin pulsars at the end of "Scientific Method"? :)
Sa'ar Chasm
07-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Or plowing into the giant space amoeba in that episode that I've actually seen?
Did I miss a post here? I didn't say anything about where the quote was from, but you guys are all "Are you sure it wasn't from X?"
Sa'ar Chasm
07-09-2012, 10:58 PM
I was just trying to guess, and ended up following evay's odd phrasing.
And I was joking, you goof. :)
Wowbagger
07-10-2012, 05:08 AM
It's either "Parallax" or "The Cloud." I think. Defs Janeways. Defs a quote I already used in the Facebook version of this game. :P
No it's not. You used "There's coffee in that nebula". If you're gonna stick your tongue out at somebody, get your facts straight first.
The episode is in fact "Parallax", and it's such a perfect Janeway line that VVS9 used it as the quote on the new <i>Voyager</i>'s dedication plaque. (I thought that was a bit silly. Quotes should be properly aged.) "The Cloud" is the one Sa'ar's remembering, and the source of the coffee quote. Back in the day, one of the big VOY sites was called The Coffee Nebula for that reason -- hence my rather dated blurb for the episode.
Wowbagger's up next.
OH, I finally figured out WTF is going on. Zeke wrote "I have to look up the context of that Archer quote," and he was referring to the quote about "You're uglier than I remembered," and somehow I connected that with "punch your way through" and thought that was the "rude Archer quote."
And since we're not allowed to Google, I read it and thought, "Gee, that sounds a lot more like Janeway." Which in fact it is.
Aha! I thought it might be something like that. No, the Archer quote is the ugly one; turns out he said it because diplomacy with Tellarites is based entirely on insults. I loved S4, but the details didn't stick with me like they did in S1 and S3. Maybe it's fiver-writing that does it...
Wowbagger
07-11-2012, 07:15 AM
That reminds me: when is my signed copy of Five-Minute "Zero Hour" coming in the mail? I've changed addresses since 2008.
"See you... out there."
1) Announcement about that shortly. 2) I woulda thought your quote was a real softball, but since it's still hanging there: Q in "All Good Things."
"A reasonable diagnosis... for a security officer." It should be easy to guess who's saying this, so which episode -- and what's the comeback?
Really, no takers? Maybe it'll help if I supply the comeback, which is delivered a few lines later: "A prudent security measure... for a doctor."
Sa'ar Chasm
07-16-2012, 03:16 AM
Holodoc and Tuvok?
Yep, them's the characters. You're not gonna get the episode any time soon (watch VOY already!), but maybe you'll give someone else an assist.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-16-2012, 05:27 AM
You're not gonna get the episode any time soon (watch VOY already!)
I did. It hurt. Besides, it hasn't been off the air long enough for me to get into it.
I did finally watch all of Buffy and Angel over the last year, though. Woulda done Firefly too, but my computer didn't like the DVD.
I'm pretty sure it's do with the Borg (the "prudent security measure" was slapping a force field around something), but it's been too long, and I don't own the eps to rewatch them.
Yep, right species. So when did they have a (still-assimilated) Borg drone on the ship? There were only a couple of times, so if you can think of one, guess it!
Yep, right species. So when did they have a (still-assimilated) Borg drone on the ship? There were only a couple of times, so if you can think of one, guess it!
I want to say it's the one where Holodoc's mobile emitter was assimilated and birthed "One." (I think that was the name of episode as well.) There wasn't much light-hearted banter at the beginning of S4, when Seven came onboard.
'Fraid not. The quote isn't from "Drone" ("One" was the one with Seven running the ship alone, later remade as "Doctor's Orders"). And since you've actually brought it up now and dismissed it, I may as well reveal that it WAS Seven they were talking about, and this was in "The Gift" (her last episode prior to de-assimilation).
Let's go with another VOY quote just to annoy Sa'ar. "You're supposed to be OFF during your off-hours!"
Nate the Great
07-17-2012, 10:01 PM
Torres in "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy"?
Good try, but no. Btw, you should drop by the fiver quote thread; you're likely to know the current one.
I sooooooooooo need to rewatch VOY. I adored the show and I haven't seen any of it since it aired.
Okay, big hint time: the character chastising the Doctor also appeared on Deep Space Nine.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-19-2012, 05:52 AM
Zimmerman. It's the episode where the Doctor gets FTPed back to the Alpha Quadrant or something.
Half right. It's Zimmerman, but an earlier appearance.
Oh, then it has to be "The Swarm." Zimmerman (actually the holo-diagnostic) is bitching that his program is cluttered with irrelevant crap, and Doc protests that he sings opera or whatever during his off-hours.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-19-2012, 03:14 PM
How many holograms that look like Robert Picardo does that ship have?
There's the EMH (Holodoc) and the diagnostic hologram, which was only used the once. There apparently existed at least one backup which was lost on a planet in "Living Witness," but said backup is never mentioned again, so we don't know if they built a new one.
There are approximately 680 EMH Mark Is (the Holodoc's model) in existence. Almost all of them were repurposed to non-medical tasks. One of the few which remained as an EMH made it to the Enterprise, surprisingly.
Bob Picardo has never turned in a bad performance, including when Jeri Ryan played him, so there could have been half a dozen Holodocs on the ship and I wouldn't have complained.
Agreed, although like the Cynic, I think his shtick started to wear thin in the later seasons. The writers knew what a great thing they had with Picardo, and that naturally led to overuse, just as it did with Jeri Ryan. When something like "Virtuoso" is taking up space that other characters could use, you've got a problem.
(Btw, they didn't start phasing out Mark I EMHs until after First Contact. The Mark II was still only a prototype a year later.)
That was kind of a group effort, but evay got the episode, so she's up next.
"Of course, asking me to give you a bumpy ride is like asking a virtuoso to sing off-key."
That's gotta be Tom Paris, but I can't think of a time he would've been asked to do that. Hmm... let's try "Dark Frontier" and "Live Fast and Prosper".
Right character, wrong episode. I'll give you a hint if you want one.
Might be a good idea, yeah.
In keeping with our previous discussion, it was a Doc-heavy episode. And I'll even tell you it was S5.
Let's try "Latent Image" and "Bliss", then.
Nope. "Warhead." Janeway wants Tom to simulate the feeling of going through a minefield so that they can get Seven into Sickbay, so her magic nanoprobes can extricate Doc from the intelligent bomb.
Let's try again with a simpler one:
"With all these new personalities floating around, it's a shame we can't find one for you."
That's gotta be "Infinite Regress".
yep! figured I'd give you a softball. :) You're up.
Since this is fast becoming the <i>Voyager</i> quote game, let's switch it up. In Peter David's <i>Vendetta</i>, the characters mention the autobiography of James Kirk: "Risk Is Our Business". That title is, of course, a quote from himself. When did he say it?
NAHTMMM
07-23-2012, 01:28 PM
Oh, um, what's it called, "That Which Survives". The one with the three underground brainglobes. Right?
NAHTMMM
07-24-2012, 04:33 AM
"Do you know why you're not afraid to die, Spock? You're more afraid of living. Each day you stay alive is just one more day you might slip and let your human half peek out. That's it, isn't it? Insecurity. Why, you wouldn't know what to do with a genuine, warm, decent feeling."
Sa'ar Chasm
07-24-2012, 06:06 AM
Galileo Seven, McCoy.
NAHTMMM
07-24-2012, 05:24 PM
McCoy's the one talking, but that isn't the episode.
NAHTMMM
07-26-2012, 01:05 PM
If it helps, they've been captured. If it doesn't help, Kirk isn't in the room with them.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-26-2012, 04:12 PM
All Our Yesterdays?
NAHTMMM
07-28-2012, 01:06 AM
No, but there are three words in the title.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-28-2012, 04:02 AM
Arrrgh! Shatner and his ego were in every bloody scene. How many Kirkless conversations could Bones and Spock possibly have?
How about The Paradise Syndrome? Kirk spends the entire episode off banging hot transplanted-human chick.
Edit: Changed "McCoy" to "Spock". Bones *is* McCoy.
I'm disqualified since I looked this up (I thought Sa'ar was right, and wanted to confirm). Nah, I think you should give a bigger hint -- the correct episode wouldn't have been among my first ten guesses based on the quote alone.
Even for McCoy, this one's really harsh. Bad enough as a personal attack and borderline racist to boot. But then, that's what made the TOS characters so real. Gene would never have let his characters talk this way about each other in the TNG days.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-28-2012, 05:06 PM
Borderline racism? How about Patterns of Force (Space Nazis!)
Edit: Or Catspaw. They got captured in that one too.
(Anyone else wanna guess?)
At this rate I'm just going to start at the pilot and guess each episode systematically.
Yeah, I had to Google it and I wouldn't have gotten that one either. Obviously I have to get back to watching TOS over lunch.
NAHTMMM
07-29-2012, 08:49 PM
Not Patterns of Force, but a more ancient Earth society than the Nazis.
Sorry, that was the best hint I could think of. I'm not very good at giving hints. :(
Shatner and his ego were in every bloody scene. How many Kirkless conversations could Bones and Spock possibly have?
LOL. Well, Kirk was busy being complimented by one of the local high men on the totem pole. Maybe that's how Kelley and Nimoy got to have the scene to themselves. ;)
Sa'ar Chasm
07-30-2012, 01:21 AM
Plato's Stepchildren.
Not quite <i>that</i> old.
Sa'ar Chasm
07-31-2012, 03:59 AM
I finally went and looked it up. Bah.
Okay, NAHTMMM, you've officially stumped the panel. Can you reveal the ep and pick a new quote, please? :)
NAHTMMM
08-01-2012, 12:37 AM
It's from "Bread and Circuses".
Since KJ and I will be on a trip for the next week, I award Sa'ar the Trying Really Hard Prize, which consists of giving everyone the next quote to guess. :)
Sa'ar Chasm
08-01-2012, 02:49 AM
"It happened."
I'll give you a hint up front: that's Geordi, insisting really hard that something he remembers occurring did in fact occur.
I can think of a couple other possibilities, but the most obvious is "The Mind's Eye".
Sa'ar Chasm
08-01-2012, 06:20 PM
You are correct. That's the last line of the episode.
"Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named <i>Enterprise</i>!"
Sa'ar Chasm
08-02-2012, 12:51 AM
I want to say that's Riker some time in the first season, possibly the episode where Geordi gets command because absolutely everyone above him is stuck on a planet being shot at by L'Oreal Eggs.
Beyond that, I've got nothing (not even the episode title).
Right character, wrong episode (the one you have in mind is "The Arsenal of Freedom"). I can tell you the episode you want is from S2 and has a somewhat similar premise.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-04-2012, 04:39 PM
Nothing's coming. Anyone else?
http://www.triphammered.com/PhotosExtras/Fate.jpg
Trip and Mal being rescued at the end of "United."
(I know, I know, but it fits, doesn't it?)
Yeah, it does fit. But this one was Riker from "Contagion".
Next: "If I get lost, I'll just follow the ship in front of us."
Sa'ar Chasm
08-05-2012, 03:32 AM
Nog, What You Leave Behind, as the combined Federation-Klingon-Romulan fleet heads for Cardassia Prime.
Dead on. Out of curiosity, is there any special reason you know this one so well?
Sa'ar Chasm
08-05-2012, 06:45 AM
It seemed like a neat line, especially in the middle of the glorious CGI panorama of all the ships the Alliance still seemed to have despite Starfleet getting curbstomped in every single battle. Seriously, the Second Fleet was said to be down to 33% strength at one point, the Seventh Fleet took 88% losses in a single engagement...I don't understand how there was a Starfleet left by the end of the summer hiatus, let along how they went on the offensive.
Ummm, next line. An easy one:
In search of his brain, doctor.
Dear dog, that has to be from the ridiculous "Spock's Brain," but I've no idea who said it.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-06-2012, 05:25 PM
Well, it was said to McCoy, and it clearly wasn't Spock...
"Kirk" would have to be my random guess, since it's not one of the "Brain and brain, what is brain?" alien chickies.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-06-2012, 08:00 PM
Correct. None of the other four series regulars ever got any meaningful lines, so it probably wasn't them, and the aliens chickies weren't portrayed as being smart enough to understand McCoy's title (misogyny much?), which leaves Scene-Stealer Shatner as the only logical choice.
My turn, probably another softball:
"Yeah, and my underwear's flame-retardant... That doesn't mean I'm gonna light myself on fire to prove it!"
That's gotta be Trip (or maybe Tom Paris), but it'll definitely take some narrowing down.
One of your guesses is correct.
(Fun fact: Connor Trinneer and Robbie McNeill at one point had planned to do a two-handed theatre run of "True West," alternating roles each night, the way Benedict Cumberbatch and Jonny Lee Miller did with Danny Boyle's "Frankenstein" in London.)
Heh, that's neat.
It would have to be after someone does something risky/stupid to test a theory. Tom in "Waking Moments"?
Nope. :) Wrong on all counts.
Trip, then. Sounds like it would be to Reed; let's try "Shuttlepod One" and "United".
Yes to Trip. Not Mal and not either of those eps.
...wow, seriously? This is one of Trip's best-known quotes. Or maybe I'm just looking at it with Tuckerite goggles. Do we want to pass and try a new one?
No, I was just seeing if anyone else would jump in before embarrassing myself further. Let's try "Unexpected" and... oh! How about "Singularity"?
No and no. I'll even give you two hints: it was second season, and Trip took no damage.
Rats, I really thought I was onto something with "Singularity". (Fun fact: I've had one scene of that fiver written for about ten years.) Now then, I happen to know a handy-dandy guide to which episodes Trip took damage in and which he didn't, and it's not cheating if I just look at the star ratings... let's try "First Flight" and "Cease Fire".
I won't drag this out any more; it's "Cease Fire."
[Captain's mess]
TUCKER: (watching his glass vibrating on the table) I don't like pushing the engines this hard. The injectors are running at a hundred and ten percent.
T'POL: They're rated for one hundred and twenty.
TUCKER: And my underwear is flame-retardant. That doesn't mean I'm going to light myself on fire to prove it.
Z, you're up.
In what way were you able to "drag this out any more"? I got it right. :)
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for who we really are."
Nate the Great
08-16-2012, 11:05 AM
Talk about an easy one. Picard in "Encounter at Farpoint."
"For you see, he was afraid and you weren't."
In what way were you able to "drag this out any more"? I got it right.:)
You did, but you offered two choices, and I could have said "Pick one." :)
The quote is from one of my favorite TOS eps, "The Enemy Within." Bones to "calm but weak" Kirk about "crazy command" Kirk. My turn again:
"Between impulse and action there is an entire realm of good taste begging for your acquaintance."
Ah, that's a classic, but I don't remember the details. Sounds like Doc talking to Seven. "Someone to Watch Over Me"?
You did, but you offered two choices, and I could have said "Pick one." :)
Yep, sure could've. And I could then have pointed you to rule #3 in the first post.
Ah, that's a classic, but I don't remember the details. Sounds like Doc talking to Seven. "Someone to Watch Over Me"?
Right characters, wrong episode.
ETA: I am going to be offline for a week, so rather than leave everyone in the lurch, I'll just tell you it's from "One" and give Zeke the win.
Oops, I didn't see evay's edit. This forum does need a poke feature.
"My mother always said, 'If you try to combine talking and eating, you'll end up doing neither very well.' "
Sa'ar Chasm
08-22-2012, 09:58 PM
That's O'Brien from the episode where Garak isn't on the station to have lunch with Bashir. I think it's the one where Garak and Odo end up on the Tal Shiar/Obsidian Order Doomed Taskforce Of Doom. What the hell was that called?
Let's say Crossing the Rubicon.
You're so close I have to wonder if you're doing it on purpose. "The Die is Cast."
Sa'ar Chasm
08-23-2012, 06:15 AM
It was one of those two, and I couldn't remember which one came first (I think Caesar declared the die was cast once he got to the other side, so he'd have to be in the process of crossing the Rubicon first).
Does that count as a correct guess, since you've given it away?
Edit: Actually, turns out I wasn't as right as I thought it was. For some reason I thought the two parters were called The Die Is Cast and Crossing the Rubicon (which are thematically linked), but it turns out there is no episode of DS9 called CtR (that's an episode of Beast Wars). The correct title of the other episode is Improbable Cause.
Oh, it counts as a win. You were close enough.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-23-2012, 10:44 PM
"So, we got a distress call from...ourselves?"
Nate the Great
08-23-2012, 11:45 PM
The episode is "Cause and Effect", but I don't know the speaker.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-24-2012, 01:08 AM
That's because I screwed up the quote.
"But we picked up the distress call before she sent the hail."
An episode I saw once when it was first broadcast, and haven't seen since.
Oops, I didn't see evay's edit. This forum does need a poke feature.
My husband used to play some game in which you could in fact poke another monster-like (ogre?) character, and it would repeatedly growl "Stop poking me!" We still use this line occasionally, along with early Bart Simpson "Ow! Ka-wit it."
Of course, we also still use "Svimvear! Veddy nice." Five points to anyone who knows that reference.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-24-2012, 02:58 AM
"Some game"? That was Warcraft II. I think you're referring to the Orc Grunt.
The poke sequence went something like this:
Argh?
Yes?
Argh?
WHAAAAAAAAAT!
Stop poking me.
IwouldnotdosuchthingsifIwereyou.
The Alliance equivalent (Human footman) said things like "Are you still touching me?" and "Don't you have a kingdom to run?"
That's because I screwed up the quote.
"But we picked up the distress call before she sent the hail."
An episode I saw once when it was first broadcast, and haven't seen since.
Oho, that scenario sounds familiar. Voyager's "Parallax"?
Sa'ar Chasm
08-24-2012, 07:31 AM
Indeed. First season Voyager I actually watched.
Let's change it up a bit. There's a TOS episode where Spock remarks on "The renowned * punctuality," where * is a species. What species is it?
"Some game"?
Mi amore goes through games pretty quickly. FPS, Civilization-type, space-based resources, they all look the same after a while. I'm sure he thinks the same thing about my various TV show crushes. :)
The poke sequence went something like this:
Argh?
Yes?
Argh?
WHAAAAAAAAAT!
Stop poking me.
IwouldnotdosuchthingsifIwereyou.
Yeah! That was it!
Sa'ar Chasm
08-26-2012, 05:07 AM
Let's change it up a bit. There's a TOS episode where Spock remarks on "The renowned * punctuality," where * is a species. What species is it?
Nobody biting?
Tholian.
Yep. When the <i>Enterprise</i> trespasses in their space, they show up and attack right on schedule.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-27-2012, 05:54 PM
Never turn your back on a blank.
(Woulda got to this earlier, but I spent all yesterday on a plane)
Nate the Great
08-28-2012, 01:12 AM
The "blank" is "Breen", and it's an episode of DS9, but I don't know the speaker or episode.
Sa'ar Chasm
08-28-2012, 02:41 AM
Breen is correct, and we don't seem to be requiring the name of the episode or the speaker, since Zeke gave me credit for just saying Tholian. I believe you're up.
Yeah, but there was only one episode with Tholians, and it was called "The Tholian Web", so I figured it went without saying. We'll let it go, though, as this one would've been hard to narrow down. (It's from "In Purgatory's Shadow" -- certainly not the first episode I think of when Breen are mentioned.)
Nate the Great
08-28-2012, 12:11 PM
"I am proud of what I am. I believe in what I do. Can you say that?"
Wow, that one seems to have frozen us solid. Mind narrowing it down a bit?
Nate the Great
09-07-2012, 12:04 PM
A bit? TOS, a man and a woman talking about the different ways they've chosen to live their lives.
Sa'ar Chasm
09-07-2012, 01:15 PM
Turnabout Intruder, crazy Whatshername who steals Kirk's body.
Nate the Great
09-07-2012, 04:20 PM
Nope.
Areel Shaw to Kirk in "Court-Martial"?
Nate the Great
09-09-2012, 02:20 PM
Okay, I'll give another hint. It's said by one of the main cast to a guest star of the opposite gender.
Okay, I Googled it, so I'm officially out for this round, but I have to say I would never have gotten that one.
Sa'ar Chasm
09-10-2012, 08:40 PM
^^^ Likewise
Okay, Nate, you've officially stumped everyone and won this round. :) Can you reveal the answer and provide a new quote?
NAHTMMM
09-11-2012, 09:54 PM
I, too, do not recognize the quote . . . and "Court Martial" and "Turnabout Intruder" would probably have been my first two guesses, for what it's worth.
Odd that it's so hard to place, because it seems like it should be a striking moment.
Nate the Great
09-11-2012, 10:30 PM
Okay, it's from "The Way to Eden":
CHEKOV: Why did you do it? [Join the hippies]
IRINA: Why did you? [Leave her and join Starfleet]
CHEKOV: I am proud of what I am. I believe in what I do. Can you say that?
Okay, I hope this one is easier....
"We have a saying in [place], 'It's lonely at the top.'"
I have to censor the place mentioned, or else it'd be too easy.
NAHTMMM
10-02-2012, 12:36 PM
Voyager?
Nate the Great
10-02-2012, 07:16 PM
The series, but not the place in the quote.
MaverickZer0
10-04-2012, 02:32 AM
"We have a saying on Arachnia..."
It's from Bride of Chaotica! if I don't miss my guess. The place would definitely, definitely have been a giveaway.
Nate the Great
10-04-2012, 12:10 PM
Yup. Your turn.
MaverickZer0
10-31-2012, 04:29 AM
Got one.
"Well, how do you expect me to type, with my nose?"
Nate the Great
03-01-2013, 03:15 AM
The thread died, so I'm gonna cheat and give the answer. Maybe we can get the ball rolling again....
Roberta in Assignment: Earth
"I've heard Klingon belly-laughs that would curl your hair."
NAHTMMM
03-12-2013, 01:10 AM
No idea. "A Matter of Honor"?
Nate the Great
01-14-2014, 02:28 AM
Guinan in "Redemption."
Let's try again...
"Life is not a dream."
Ah! I know that one, even though I haven't seen the movie all the way through. It's Spock in Trek V, struggling to understand "Row, Row, Row Your Boat". (I know about it from reading the review at Jabootu's Bad Movie Dimension (http://www.jabootu.com/startrekv.htm) -- fun place, read the Superman IV review -- where that moment is one of the two in the whole movie he likes. The other is Spock remembering something mean Sarek said within minutes of his birth.)
Here's one I looked up earlier today: "A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind."
Nate the Great
02-01-2014, 01:51 PM
I cheated and looked this one up. I hope someone else can do better.
NAHTMMM
02-01-2014, 02:04 PM
I really have no idea. :(
Sa'ar Chasm
02-02-2014, 12:05 AM
The original was Samuel Johnson talking about being hanged in the morning. I dunno where it turns up in Trek. Jake was a writer, writers have deadlines, possibly something there?
Okay, fairly large hint: Samuel Johnson is close, on account of being a historical British person, but he has the handicap that he really existed.
I would never have gotten that if I hadn't looked it up. Obviously I have to watch that ep again. I really enjoyed it when it aired, too; I thought that ep and its successor were some of the more clever bits of Trek plotting.
I thought the quote sounded a lot like Douglas Adams ("I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by"), who is also British.
NAHTMMM
02-09-2014, 02:57 AM
It reminded me of a bit in one of Terry Pratchett's novels, where the context is in fact an imminent hanging. And he's British.
Still couldn't tell you where the Trek version comes from.
Sa'ar Chasm
02-09-2014, 03:04 PM
I, too, cheated and looked it up, and then realised I should have been able to guess it if I'd thought long enough.
So, a British fictional character. Where do people in the future go to interact with fictional characters?
(Apart from large plush bears and associates)
Okay, looks like this one won't be got. It's Moriarty in "Ship in a Bottle", which is indeed one of the best TNG episodes. The premise screams Brannon Braga, but it's actually a Rene Echevarria ep. And it has Dr. Westphalen from seaQuest in it!
Next, one of my all-time favourites: "It's easy to be a saint in paradise." (I think I used that one in the FB game, so Wowbagger is disqualified if he's around.)
Nate the Great
02-15-2014, 02:06 PM
It's an Eddington quote from DS9, but the specific episode escapes me.
Nate the Great
02-15-2014, 08:33 PM
Or not. It sounds like an Eddington quote, though.
I definitely want to say DS9. Maybe from one of the episodes where they go back in time and Sisko is mistaken for Gabriel Bell?
Not Eddington, not "Past Tense", but you do have the series right.
Sa'ar Chasm
02-17-2014, 03:48 AM
It's Sisko, and it's the episode where his Academy friend Cal first defects to the Maquis. What's the episode called? Oh, right, "The Maquis."
Yes?
(gotta go re-read the fiver now)
Not Eddington, not "Past Tense", but you do have the series right.
Yeah, the other series generally didn't point out how rough things were for the folks who didn't live on shiny starships. DS9 is not rerun-friendly, but it's probably the most powerful of the modern series. You can definitely see BSG2K's DNA all through it.
Sa'ar's right. He'll have trouble finding the "Maquis" fiver (it's one of my favourite episodes, so I've had it called forever but haven't written it yet), so he'll have to use that time to think of a new quote instead.
Yeah, the other series generally didn't point out how rough things were for the folks who didn't live on shiny starships. DS9 is not rerun-friendly, but it's probably the most powerful of the modern series.
Oh yeah, it's no contest. DS9 earned the "deep" in its name. It was the only Trek show that was never the flagship of the franchise, so it didn't have to try to be all things to all viewers. (Ira Steven Behr once said something to the effect of "Eventually we realized no one was paying any attention to us, so we could do whatever we wanted.") As a result, while the other shows all had individual episodes that were brilliant and thought-provoking, DS9 was the only one where those episodes built on each other to create something bigger. You can talk about themes and dramatic structure in DS9 as a whole, not just individual episodes, and that's something no other Trek show can say. (VOY comes closest with the series-long arc of getting home and not killing each other on the way. ENT S3 was a mini-DS9, but in general the Enterprise shows were pretty ad hoc.)
The remarkable thing is that DS9 accomplished so much without a Babylon 5-style grand plan. The writers found the perfect balance between keeping a story going and making changes to keep the network and viewers happy. The advantages are clear from how B5 played out -- JMS has talked a lot about having a "back door" for every character to preserve the arc, but whenever he had to use one, the execution was weird and jarring. To be fair, there was nothing he could've done about losing his original commander (it wasn't the network like we all thought -- he's recently revealed what really happened (http://bit.ly/b5ohare)). Having to replace Sisko would have gutted DS9 just as much.
You can definitely see BSG2K's DNA all through it.
True -- much like how you can see Wolverine's DNA all through Batman. One is a more modern and in-your-face and generally X-treem version, which is the sort of thing I don't care for but always sells well -- and I'd be foolish to deny that great stuff has been done with both of them, but I still know which one I prefer.
Sa'ar Chasm
02-18-2014, 09:56 PM
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied -- chains us all, irrevocably."
(Side note: I used this as an audition piece for the play I'm in. Telling you which play might be a bit of a giveaway, so I'll wait until after someone guesses it.)
True -- much like how you can see Wolverine's DNA all through Batman. One is a more modern and in-your-face and generally X-treem version, which is the sort of thing I don't care for but always sells well -- and I'd be foolish to deny that great stuff has been done with both of them, but I still know which one I prefer.
Eh, "prefer" in this case is sort of like choosing between my kids. I enjoyed both DS9 and BSG2K, at different times and for different reasons. Each one had long arcs, individual standout eps, powerful writing, fantastic characters, astonishing acting, the occasional clunker, and so on.
Which one would be my preferred at any given moment would depend on the context of the discussion and how I was feeling at that moment.
No takers? That's Picard in "The Drumhead", quoting Admiral Norah Satie's father. It's a great speech, although if you take him at his word he's arguing for anarchy. (If I'm not free to punch you and take your wallet, nobody's free at all!) ObSelfPromotion: I made fun of it in this fiver (http://www.fiveminute.net/nextgen/fiver.php?ep=timesarrow1).
While we're on the topic of characters quoting mentors saying lofty idealistic things: "Challenge your preconceptions or they'll challenge you." Bonus points for identifying both quoter and quotee.
Sa'ar Chasm
02-26-2014, 02:01 AM
No takers? That's Picard in "The Drumhead", quoting Admiral Norah Satie's father.
Indeed. I used it in my audition for Inherit The Wind. Seemed appropriate to use a courtroom speech for a play involving a courtroom. It also helped that the director is a geek and was working her way through the series. She's the first nerdly-type I've met in this misbegotten town.
I got cast as the science teacher on trial, which is an astounding coincidence since I teach science in real life. There isn't much acting required, especially on the line where he moans about not having a job.
"Challenge your preconceptions or they'll challenge you."
Trip quoting his Vulcan science teacher (biology, maybe?).
My turn, and I'll make it a two-hander:
"Stop breathing down my neck!"
"My breathing is merely a simulation."
"So is my neck. Stop it anyway!"
Nate the Great
02-27-2014, 02:18 PM
EMH Mark One and EMH Mark Two in "Message in a Bottle."
"Funny. For a minute there I thought you were talking to me as a friend."
"The Die is Cast"? Sounds kind of Garak/Odo.
Nate the Great
03-03-2014, 01:56 PM
Not Garak.
....
That's all you're getting at this time. *evil smirk*
Ah! This was the last character I thought of who might be saying it to Odo, but he should've been the first. Quark, right? After Odo trashes his quarters in "Crossfire", and Quark comes to see him on the pretext that his angst is bad for business. I love that episode.
Nate the Great
03-06-2014, 02:48 PM
Indeed. You're up.
"I hope they do." (Casual-sounding line, but I'm looking for an episode where it's very important.)
No? Okay, here's a hint: the fact that the character said this was used to make a point.
Sa'ar Chasm
03-13-2014, 09:11 PM
Yeah, I got nothing.
The only Klingon lawyer I recall seeing on TV was in ENT's "Judgment," but I just had to spend five minutes looking that up, so I barely remember the scene. (Trip had four lines in that ep. Trinneer was contractually required to appear in every episode, but he had been injured by Phlox's stunt guy while filming "The Crossing" the week before, so his role was very brief.)
Michael Dorn played a lawyer in Trek VI, but again I think he had two lines.
Good grief, even Phlox's stunt double was out to kill Trip!
It's not "Judgment" or Trek VI. Apparently this was not a memorable episode! (Well, I liked it anyway...)
Nate the Great
03-14-2014, 01:28 PM
Klingon lawyer...then it must be that DS9 episode that I wrote a fiver for all those years ago and whose name I can't recall.
Right on both counts, but you'll have to remember the name or identify the episode unambiguously -- before someone else does!
Nate the Great
03-15-2014, 01:17 PM
But if I look up my own fiver, that's still cheating. Someone else will have to do it from memory.
I just mean tell us more about the episode -- besides "Klingon lawyer", which is begging the question. Surely you at least remember what he was on the station for.
Nate the Great
03-16-2014, 01:09 PM
Worf was framed into thinking that he destroyed a defenseless ship, and this was going to be used as a political weapon.
That's more like it. The episode was "Rules of Engagement" (and as the blurb indicates, I've always found it funny that the premise is so similar to the movie of that name). You're up.
Nate the Great
03-17-2014, 01:12 PM
"He just kept talking in one incredibly unbroken sentence, moving from topic to topic so no one could interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic."
Sa'ar Chasm
03-18-2014, 10:27 PM
Picard in Timescape. They're on a runabout coming back from a conference and Picard's describing a speaker who gave a talk on a completely differently topic than was mentioned in the program, and nobody could tell him because he didn't shut up.
Nate the Great
03-19-2014, 12:41 PM
Quite. Your turn.
Sa'ar Chasm
03-19-2014, 07:08 PM
"He knows nothing of our ways."
Nate the Great
03-19-2014, 10:12 PM
That sounds like a Klingon statement, but I have no idea where or who.
Worf to K'Elehyr re Alexander, "Reunion"?
Sa'ar Chasm
03-20-2014, 01:46 PM
Correct. I don't know why, but I've managed to memorise that little exchange, possibly because that episode got a lot of rerun airplay when I was watching the show after school.
"Our ways? You mean Klingon ways."
"He is Klingon!"
"He is also *my son*, and I am half human!"
Zeke, you're up.
Nate the Great
03-20-2014, 06:58 PM
One of the poker players in "Times Arrow"?
Nate the Great
03-21-2014, 12:37 AM
Once again I had to look it up. That's one obscure quote.
You think so? It's a significant episode, and the scene in question is (without revealing too much) one of my favourite "sticks out like a sore thumb when watched now" moments.
Okay, this may narrow it down too much, but the episode in question introduced a new alien species (they had been mentioned, but not seen).
Sa'ar Chasm
03-24-2014, 01:09 PM
The Last Outpost, the Ferengi. Probably slobbering over someone's communicator.
Close enough. It's Riker confirming their suspicions. I've always wondered if Will was telling the truth or just posturing.
You're up.
Sa'ar Chasm
03-25-2014, 12:49 PM
"Oh, your species is always suffering and dying."
Nate the Great
03-25-2014, 01:01 PM
That's a Q line, but I don't know the specific episode.
Sa'ar Chasm
03-27-2014, 02:40 AM
It is indeed a Q episode, one in which a number of humans were suffering and dying offscreen while Q was futzing about with the crew.
"Hide and Q"? I remember some disaster that Riker had to resist using his Q powers on.
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