Revenge of the Sith

[Nic Corelli]

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith

That is the title of the movie (which comes out in 9 and a half months). What do you folks think?

I personally like it. Not exactly flashing with creativity, but OK. :mrgreen:

[NAHTMMM]

It's all right :)

[Sa'ar Chasm]

It couldn't possibly be worse than "Send In The Clones" or whatever Episode II (starring Chakotay's son and Padme's nipples) was called.

Can we say "nipples" on the board, Zeke?

[Nan]

Bleh.

Return of the Jedi was originally called Revenge of the Jedi, and posters were even printed, until someone realized revenge was not a Jedi thing.

All I can say is RotS better not suck. If Batman 5 sucks as well, I'll have to make good on those various threats of putting hits out on execs and writers.

And the brutal thing about AotC? The clones were the coolest part of that movie. And Kung Fu Yoda. Heheheh, fists of muppet fury. Heheheh.

Can we say "nipples" on the board, Zeke?

I should hope so, since you've already said it twice. :D

[Gatac]

Just say you're doing a Monty Python joke.

Gatac

[Vedra]

This was my impression of AotC.

Padme and Anakin stare at each other,angst-ridden,from opposite sides of the room.

Battle scene.

More staring.

Movie ends. I wasn't amused.

[PointyHairedJedi]

AOTC was mainly just a CGI orgasm with some plot stuff thrown in for good measure. Honestly I'm not expecting much different from this third film. The title... well, it doesn't suck, and that's good enough for me.

[Nic Corelli]

Ah, but what is the key element that the fourth, fifth and sixth movie had, and were great, and the first and the second movie didn`t have, and sucked?

Darth Vader.

And the third movie WILL have Darth Vader. :twisted: You just can`t have a good SF movie without a great villain.

And this is one helluva villain, :twisted:

[admiral sab]

Return of the Sith? is Jackson getting any Royalties? I mean they are one word of from Lord of the Rings third movie! ;) Return of the ...no not King...Sith! HA!

[Nan]

Can't copyright an existing word, so, no. ;)

Particularly since it's Revenge of the Sith, not Return. ;)

Trivia: The Return of the King was originally titled The War of the Ring. Tolkien thought The Return of the King as a title gave away too much of the story.

Not as much as, say, Frodo Finally Gives In To The Dark Side, but meh.

Trivia #2: Sith is also an existing word. It's an archaic form of "since."

[admiral sab]

see Nic that's what you get when you use Blue font that can barely be read against this black background! But still it's the same abreviation! Rot-Sith ok now I'm reaching and I can't read! ;)

thanks for clarifying, Nan.

[Nan]

Registered member of the Nitpicker's Guild.

I kid you not. ;)

[admiral sab]

somehow, I always knew that about you! ;)

[taya17]

All I can say is RotS better not suck

You say this of a movie whose abbreviation spells "rots"? You're way too optimistic, Nan!

My policy with these kind of movies is to just go in with zero expectations. That way I can't be disappointed, even if the movie sucks monkey ass.

And Sa'ar-- what's wrong with saying "nipples"? :D

[PointyHairedJedi]

I think he's still recovering from the shock of me saying "orgasm", so he might not reply for a while. :D

[Kira]

Return of the Sith? is Jackson getting any Royalties? I mean they are one word of from Lord of the Rings third movie! ;) Return of the ...no not King...Sith! HA!
As someone already pointed out, it's Revenge of the Sith, so the only thing PJ could claim is "of the". Besides, Return of the Jedi predates Return of the King in movieland. But maybe PJ could sic his Andy Serkis-powered King Kong on Lucas anyways, just to make the world a better place and show him who's boss.

I'm not real enthused about the title -- it fits nicely, I guess, and it's certainly better than Attack of the Clones but it lacks punch. Not that it really matters -- odds are excellent that this film is going to suck. Hard. Just like its two predecessors. (And unlike Batman Begins, Zeke.)

[Gatac]

Batman Begins has Christian Bale. It is theoretically impossible for a film with Christian Bale to suck.

Watch Equilibrium if you don't believe me.

Gatac

[Sa'ar Chasm]

Not that it really matters -- odds are excellent that this film is going to suck. Hard. Just like its two predecessors.

In my experience with recent trilogies - Matrix and LOTR - the middle installment has dropped in quality, and then the finale has picked up a bit. Hopefully Anakin will get his lungs scorched early on, requiring James Earl Jones to provide his voice and spare us his attempts at acting.

[Nan]

Because as you know, everything's cool if James Earl Jones does the voice. :D

[Zeke]

Not that it really matters -- odds are excellent that this film is going to suck. Hard. Just like its two predecessors. (And unlike Batman Begins, Zeke.)

Hey, I'll be delighted if it doesn't suck -- I'm just saying the recent history isn't promising. But I've been wrong before. I wasn't optimistic about Spider-Man 2, which turned out to be the best thing ever.

Tangent: Why must all movies have sequels? The Matrix was complete in itself and needed no followup; from what I've heard of the sequels, they mostly just diminished the original. It seems every movie that's popular enough, no matter how conclusive the ending is (don't get certain people started on Shrek 2), either has a sequel already or has one being planned. I'm just saying if I start hearing about Majority Report, I'm outta here.

Back on topic, I think Revenge of the Sith kicks all possible titular @$$. It just fits so well. The only question is what the Sith are getting revenge for -- is there some past defeat we as moviegoers should know about? (And why couldn't George Lucas have started thinking along these lines sooner? Episode II could have been called The Republic Strikes Out or something, and the AI research community (../thisjustin/10.html) would have been spared....)

[Gatac]

This Penny Arcade comic answers "Why?" when dealing with media pretty conclusively:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2000-10-23&res=l

Besides, Hollywood wouldn't be Hollywood if they could leave a perfectly fine thing alone. That would just be wrong. Anything with a budget bigger than about 20 million $ is destined to have a sequel at one point, for no particular reason.

Gatac

[Kira]

Not that it really matters -- odds are excellent that this film is going to suck. Hard. Just like its two predecessors. (And unlike Batman Begins, Zeke.)
Hey, I'll be delighted if it doesn't suck -- I'm just saying the recent history isn't promising. But I've been wrong before. I wasn't optimistic about Spider-Man 2, which turned out to be the best thing ever.
Ah, but Batman Begins will contain people that can actually act, a department lacking good representation in Spiderman 2 (which, granted, was better than I expected given the first one and the "actors") . The buzz is that they've finally gotten Batman right this time around -- and with Michael Caine as Alfred, how can it possibly go wrong? Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman... need I go on? The teaser trailer (http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com) is already available and it looks sweet.

Tangent: Why must all movies have sequels?
Because Hollywood, as a collective consciousness, has the IQ of a kumquat. If Movie X makes a few billion, then X 2 will make even more. (No, not X2. X2 is a standard that a lot of sequels would do well to be coming within reaching distance of.) Original ideas are sadly few and far between. Sequels are only justifiable when a sequel makes sense -- in the case of adapted books (see: the Bourne movies, Lord of the Rings, and the upcoming Narnia movies (http://www.narniaweb.com)), or when the plot obviously demands a follow up. Matrix? Not one of those. Ditto for Shrek, but I'm willing to let that one slide in light of nearly hyperventilating while watching it.

[Derek]

Because Hollywood, as a collective consciousness, has the IQ of a kumquat. If Movie X makes a few billion, then X 2 will make even more.
Actually, I think that's not quite right. I think the movie industry even knows that. I think it's more of if movie X makes a few billion, then X 2 will make half that, and since half that is still above the breakeven point, they go ahead. Of course, if movie X 3 will bring in another quarter of movie X's money, then they'll just sign the producers up for the two followups right away and then the producers will have Jean die with an obvious foreshadowing of... oh right, you said not X2.

[Nan]

Of late, Hollywood has also had its collective underwear in a bunch over the triplet terrors of piracy, inflating budgets, and big-budget flops.

A proven success, like Shrek, has "Cash Cow" painted on its side in big neon letters.

If it worked once, it'll work again. And again. And again. Long past the point of farce.

It's a perfect scheme. Perfect, damn you!

Another illustrative PA cartoon (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-12-13&res=l).

[Hotaru]

Revenge of the Sith? I was hoping that star wars would just go away...

Now, let's say that you have 70's show/book/real life event/anything Y. Y made a great deal of money/media coverage, so the movie producers believe that it will earn them a great deal of money. Movie X is created. Now X in itself was complete, no need - or opportunity - for a sequal. Knowing that X2 will bring in at least half the money of X they come up with some crazy plot.

ie.
Actor from the first: I have a secret
Actress from the first: Yes?
Actor: I love you.
Actress: You already told me that.
Actor: I'm also dying.
Actress: NOOO!
Actor: and am on a secret mission for the CIA.
Actress: We're Canadian...
Actor: I know.

X2 is created, now known as Z. Z makes 75% of the money that X made. A plan for X3 is hatched. Also an X and Z game, a series of X books, and a whole big advertising deal with McDonalds result. Now X3, now known as A MUST be made, as no money can be lost. With the already completed movie Y, not much is left for A. The result?

X is great, Z is okay, A is arguably better but in the end is nothing but an attempt to grab money.




FFXI is down right now, I'm a little bored.

[Kira]

Actually, I think that's not quite right. I think the movie industry even knows that. I think it's more of if movie X makes a few billion, then X 2 will make half that, and since half that is still above the breakeven point, they go ahead. Of course, if movie X 3 will bring in another quarter of movie X's money, then they'll just sign the producers up for the two followups right away and then the producers will have Jean die with an obvious foreshadowing of... oh right, you said not X2.
Oh, yeah, what I meant was that the sequel will make more money for the studio, not necessarily more money than the original movies. (Though Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek and Spiderman don't follow that pattern.) And come to think of it, X2 is a perfect example of a movie that just begs a sequel. Too bad we may not get Bryan Singer back... though having him helm Superman V: The Unhappening may be a consolation if he can do for that franchise what he did for X-Men.

[MaverickZer0]

...What scares me is that I first heard the title from RealLifeComics.
That being said, I think it's okay.

I need a new LotR box trilogy (books). Mine is, believe it or not, like 40 years old and falling apart.

[Saxamaphone]

I am very optimistic about Batman Begins - every looks really very promising so far. Not like the recent puke fests of Batman 3 and 4 - the cast looks solid as does the writing.

It's not the sequils that bother me so much as the recent spawning of vs. movies - Freddy vs. Jason, Alien vs. Predator, and the thankfully cancelled Batman vs. Superman. They're not ever trying with these movies, cause the know they'll make money on their own with out such trivialities such are "character development" or "plot."

[catalina_marina]

I've seen Alien vs. Predator and ehm, character development? Plot? What are these things? She did make some friends though. :wink:

[MaverickZer0]

A v. P wasn't good? I'll just go see Spiderman 2 then.

...Yes, I haven't yet. It bugs me how everyone's saying how great it is and I haven't gotten to see it yet.
And Harry Potter made sense to have sequels. They seem to be getting better as they go along. 1 was okay, 2 was good, 3 rocked, so I'm optimistic about 4.


BTW, since all anime are destined for a movie apparently...(That stupid Yu-Gi-oh, Pokemon, Cardcaptors, Digimon) ...I'm just waiting for a Mega Man: NT Warrior movie to start going to theatres again. Or InuYasha. Whichever is first.

[catalina_marina]

Alien vs Predator was good, it just didn't have much plot or character development when you think about it. Well, it does have a little plot...

[Anonymous]

Has no-one else noticed how much the original Star Wars trilogy is like Flash Gordon? Also, did you know that Lucas originally wanted to do flash gordon but the italian guy who did the crap camp-fest version made in 1980 had already got the rights......can anyone TRULY tell the personalities of Ming the Merciless and Palpatine apart? Find out in the next exciting post of the Five Minute Voyage Forums to the Galaxy! :P

[Anonymous]

Whoops...forgot to mention my name. Oh, and this. Starring Colin "Zeke" Hayman as the book, Derek Dean as Arthur Dent, Kira as Trillian, Nic Correli as Ford Prefect, the Ventilation system, and the Vogon computer, PHJ as Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz and IJD GAF only happened to be Hig Hergenflast. (NB - these are assigned arbitrarily - dont kill me!)

[PointyHairedJedi]

(NB - these are assigned arbitrarily - dont kill me!)
Kill you? No, I'll just read you some of my poetry. :P

[Anonymous]

Oh NOOOOOO!!!!! Is there any tea on this spaceship?

[PointyHairedJedi]

Tea? Pffft. There's a Starbucks concession in the mess hall though.

[Zeke]

As the book?

[Draknek]

Have you ever heard the original radio series?

The book is the starring role.

[Nan]

Too shocked to notice the multiple exclamation points even, eh, Zeke? ;)

[catalina_marina]

As the book?
Hey, I love the book. :wink:

[Anonymous]

The book is one of the funniest parts...that and Hig Hergenflast and the Ventilation System and Gag Halfrunt make the radio series the best!

[Nan]

What about Eddie? ;)

[Chancellor Valium]

Well he's just swell guys! What about the Ventilation System?? Huh?