Is anyone following the New Plan to Save Enterprise? [Archive]

Wowbagger

02-09-2005, 03:42 AM

This is such complete madness that I figure it has to appeal to some fellow members of the Fiver community:

This is from the TrekBBS thread (http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Board=UBB28&Number=3952274) that came within a hair of crashing the server yesterday:

LET THE FANS PAY FOR ENTERPRISE!

On trekweb, a poster broke down some numbers assuming 1.6 million per episode: $1,600,000 an episode times 22 episodes comes out to $35,200,000 for a season. $35,200,000 divided by 3,000,000 viewers is $11.74 each. He suggested we contribute to pay for Season 5, a great idea! 3 million has been the average for Season 4. $11.74? Let's round it to $12.00 even x 3 mil equals $36,000,000.00 for Season 5. I spend 12 bucks on Domino's Pizza!

Let's put our money where our hearts, minds and mouths are and start a fund to pay for the cost of Season 5. We need a central website and Saveenterprise is just the place. I support letter writing and buying ads as much as the next guy but desparate times calls for desparate measures so along with the writing campaign, phone calls to CBS and Paramount, protest at the offices, let's do something that's never been done before: THE FANS PAY FOR SEASON 5! The cancellation of Enterprise hasn't gotten any attention except for a blurb in the entertainment sections of the papers so let's shake things up and get some publicity!

CBS/Viacom, UPN, Paramount are all saying Enterprise is cost prohibitive to renew...ok, fine, we the fans want the show to come back, we'll pay for it! I don't want to make demands like fire Rick Berman or hire Shatner for an episode, that would stink of extortion. My only demand would be for Manny Coto and Reeves-Stevens to remain in the same capacity.
We'll get criticism from the press that we are willing to pony up cash for a TV show but not for Tsunami victims...hey, I've donated to the tsunami victims and others, my conscience is clear. I think its worth contributing 12 bucks to a series that's just hitting its stride and then getting prematurely de-railed!

Let's cut the crying Enterprise fans and put the grief and anger aside. Be proactive, we need to UNITE- best place is saveenterprise- and lay it on the line. According to another thread we have until the end of March, that's when the sets are chopped down, the cast are released from their contracts, etc. Again my friends, THE PUBLICITY ALONE WOULD CREATE BUZZ FOR ENTERPRISE! Headlines would read "FANS DONATE MONEY TO SAVE SERIES!"

USA Today wrote last year..."Never underestimate the power of a trekkie!" Goddamn right...I'm willing to donate $12 to raise funds for Season 5, who's with me?

Similar threads have popped up on the saveenterprise, trekweb, stuniverse, and startrek.com forums. I have literally sat and watched messages appear pledging a total of thousands of dollars, and, I'm told, there is far more on Tim (Saveenterprise founder)'s e-mail server.

A central domain is being set up as I write, with a secure server for donations.

Call me an optimist, but it is not yet the time to give up hope!

Stay tuned...

Zeke

02-09-2005, 03:49 AM

I have no IDEA how to react to this.

Xeroc

02-09-2005, 04:28 AM

I have no IDEA how to react to this.
I'll agree to that statement!

Kira

02-09-2005, 05:25 AM

I can't help but wonder how many of the people pledging large sums of money donate to charities...

Zeke

02-09-2005, 05:40 AM

It's a valid point -- but I can't help but wonder if those making it donate to charities either. And if not, whether that bothers them when they pay to watch movies and such.

However, I take this point more seriously here than I did during the SaveEnterprise ad campaigns. We're talking about a LOT more money this time. That's one of the reasons I find this pay-it-yourself plan somewhat unsettling.

Chancellor Valium

02-09-2005, 11:08 AM

I hate to be the voice of doom here, but every time other people try to so much as borrow the rights for Doctor Who from the Beeb post the '89 cancellation, they turned down the offers. I have nothing against trying, but I thought I'd better just say that this kind of stuff has been tried before, and it doesn't necessarily work.

Derek

02-09-2005, 12:36 PM

Here are my questions, which I'm sure have been raised in the threads mentioned, but I haven't read them.

1. Has Paramount been officially asked about this? I somehow don't think showing up at their door with $36 million will necessarily guarantee a 5th season. I can see Paramount's lawyers getting scared by the idea of a fan-funded 5th season and then turn down the idea.

2. Are the people making pledges really going to go through with it or are they not going to pay later?

3. Are the people already donating money going to get their money back if it fails? If not, who will get the money?

admiral sab

02-09-2005, 01:38 PM

um I paid 700 dollars this past year for Voyager DVD's. The way I see it... I've more than paid my dues already. I'm not giving anymore money to Paramount or Trek. Maybe it's wrong of me, but I've bought movies and magazines and Trek dolls! Dude. I paid to see Nemesis in the movie theatre! They owe me!

Ok sorry for the harshness. The fans that want to do this, great! I'll watch Season 5! But as for me, I can't see myself donating money to this when I have a family to think about. Of course I never bought a Kirk autograph off Ebay for 300 dollars! Or been to a convention and paid over a thousand dollars.

Chancellor Valium

02-09-2005, 02:25 PM

Admiral, that's perfectly sensible, not harsh. Real life has to come first, not TV, ultimately.

Celeste

02-09-2005, 02:28 PM

Hey, petitions got Family Guy back on the air. :D Just remember that!

Kira

02-09-2005, 03:45 PM

Syndicated reruns beating some first-run shows in the ratings and millions of dollars in DVD sales got Family Guy back on the air.

evay

02-09-2005, 04:46 PM

The new site is TrekUnited. (http://www.trekunited.com) Yes, they already have a lawyer on board. I think they've made overtures to Paramount. Tim says WRITE SCIFI NOW because they are also interested but they want to see what the fan base does. If the effort fails, I believe the figure is 97% of the money will be refunded to the donors. There's a FAQ on the TrekBBS and I imagine it'll be up on the TrekUnited site in a few days.

Yes, I donate to charity, local and national, every year. Yes, I donated to the tsunami relief effort. Donating to help pay for a S5 will likely be mostly symbolic, but if you already have an entertainment budget (junk food, movies, magazines, CDs, MP3s) then you already have spare money if you wanted to donate to this cause.

I would rather go down fighting and know that I did whatever I could to keep ENT on the air than shrug my shoulders and let Les F*cking Moonves tell me what I can and cannot watch.

stripysox

02-09-2005, 06:32 PM

I paid to see Nemesis in the movie theatre! They owe me! .
LOL My thoughts exactly!

I think its a lovaly idea, it realy does show devotion. However I personaly have no plans to donate money to a TV show however much I like it. I have (and will continue to) written letters on behalf of ENY, but thats my limit. Although if it does work I'll feel guilty about watching it becaus I didn't help out.

I don't have the money anyway, so thats an academic point.

Does anyone know if this has been tryed before?

admiral sab

02-09-2005, 07:44 PM

lol after reading the Trip/T'Polers forum and a few other threads about this I'm now convinced I might want to send in money. (stupid hormones!) Of course I just want to send money so we can show those people that they can't control what we watch. LOL give me an hour and my mind may change again. Who knows?! Will spare change help? How about I go around collecting all the pocket change I can find... cash that in and that's how much I'll donate to the cause. :)

Celeste

02-09-2005, 07:48 PM

Syndicated reruns beating some first-run shows in the ratings and millions of dollars in DVD sales got Family Guy back on the air.

Well, yes. That helps too. ►_►

PointyHairedJedi

02-09-2005, 07:51 PM

Good heavens! This must be stopped at once! Don't you see, once the networks pick up on the idea, that means that if they get a show with a bit fan following on their hands, all they need to do is threaten to cancel it and then just watch the money pour in! It's madness, I tell you!

;)

stripysox

02-09-2005, 08:14 PM

One more thing. Even if paramount says yes to s5, it will take some time to sort out. Wont the actors have other work lined up by then?

Kira

02-09-2005, 08:46 PM

Not if the casting agents have seen their work on Enterprise. *rimshot*

I kid, I kid. In all honesty, I think the best shot for the series to survive would be if SciFi picks it up... and considering what I've seen from that network so far, I suspect the series would improve several times over.

admiral sab

02-09-2005, 11:24 PM

I agree. I think I'm going to concentrate on emailing/mailing Sci fi network. It's less costly! ;)

Wowbagger

02-09-2005, 11:37 PM

Whoo... lots of questions. The TrekUnited.com forum is now up, by the way, but they're busy trying to hammer out the PayPal accounts (which, I believe, gurantee 99-100% refund in case of failure.

From the TrekUnited FAQ:

Why contribute to a TV show and not to aid organizations?
It's not an either/or option really. Many people, among them dedicated Trekkers and people from this campaign, are supporting aid organizations and their great work to help people in poverty around the world. But independent from that each day people spend alot of money on entertainment products, cinema, superficial things, anyway. To use just a little of this money (what equals to one cheap DVD or CD) to keep the show you like on the air, isn't a bad cause then either, is it?

Shoot. This was to be a long note, but dinner. Later!

Zeke

02-10-2005, 12:13 AM

I kid, I kid. In all honesty, I think the best shot for the series to survive would be if SciFi picks it up... and considering what I've seen from that network so far, I suspect the series would improve several times over.

SciFi would be better than cancellation, but that's all I'll say for them. These are the people who promoted Farscape to the hilt and then cancelled it. I'd trust them as far as I can throw a PK Command Carrier.

Wowbagger

02-10-2005, 12:19 AM

I'm back.

Derek, yes, Paramount has been officially approached about this, lawyers in tow. TrekUnited was told to come back later with a large check and they'll talk.

Those making pledges seem completely serious, but we won't know until the PayPal account is up tonight or tomorrow. I, for one, am most definitely in.

Valium, yes, it's been tried before. But never by Trekdom. Despite what the ratings say, we are still far stronger than the fan bases of Farscape (which also tried this, didn't they?) or Dr. Who. We can make this work. All that's really required is heavy word-of-mouth; I can't see it as a problem to get 3 Million Trekkies, who already pay vast amounts of money for DVD boxsets, to put down $12. Seriously, stripysox and Adm. Sab, you must pay $12 a week in lunch money...or do you? (Twilight Zone music)

Random extra bonus from pulling this off: we'll be paying production costs directly, avoiding UPN and thereby not needing to make a profit on airing the show. Translation: No commericials! :D :D

Real life has to come first, not TV, ultimately.

*gasp*

Draknek

02-10-2005, 12:38 AM

My opinion: this is insanity. But it could just be insanity that grabs enough attention to do something.

I don't believe it is possible to raise enough money to pay for the entire fifth series. Not a chance. 3 million people, in this context, is a giant number. 3 thousand is stretching the limits of what I could believe to be possible.

But it will certainly be interesting to see what happens.

Wowbagger

02-10-2005, 12:59 AM

My opinion: this is insanity. But it could just be insanity that grabs enough attention to do something.

And you've just summed up my feelings.

True, 3 million seems too big. But, if you think globally, and enough fanatics (and I do mean fanatics) blitz every major and minor media organization or ST site, it's not all that outrageous.

But it is still outrageous, I'll grant you that.

Kira

02-10-2005, 01:08 AM

SciFi would be better than cancellation, but that's all I'll say for them. These are the people who promoted Farscape to the hilt and then cancelled it. I'd trust them as far as I can throw a PK Command Carrier.
:roll: Fine. So, UPN is retarded, SciFi is evil, and the fan money plan is "unsettling." And you want... what, exactly?

Wowbagger

02-10-2005, 01:15 AM

And what's a PK Command Carrier, anywho? Ah, Google tells me it's "a kind of fish." No, wait.

Ah. Gratuitious Farscape reference.

You know what? I really need to get off this topic and be a bit more social.

MaverickZer0

02-10-2005, 01:20 AM

I'm not sure what I think about this. I mean...I do want Enterprise back. Actually, beyond that, I pretty much need Enterprise back. But I don't even have money to but a chocolate bar from the vending machine at lunch. (not that I eat chocolate, but...)

I'd like to, and Space is a good network for those of us in Canada, but I just don't have the resources.

Zeke

02-10-2005, 02:56 AM

:roll: Fine. So, UPN is retarded, SciFi is evil, and the fan money plan is "unsettling." And you want... what, exactly?

There's such a thing as situations without a perfect solution. You know I'll be thrilled if ENT is saved, no matter how it's done. If SciFi picks it up or the fan campaign succeeds, the good will far outweigh the bad. But I'm not going to pretend the bad isn't there.

With BSG renewed and SG-1 building an empire, maybe SciFi has learned its lesson. I'm just pointing out their record isn't promising. As for the fan campaign, I'm going to make a post explaining what bothers me about that in more detail. (Short answer: sense of entitlement.) But I still intend to support it however I can.

evay

02-10-2005, 03:20 AM

Realistically speaking, I think if ENT has any chance it would be on SCI-FI. However much TrekUnited raises -- and no, I don't think it will be the full amount for production costs -- it will be to prove the point that Trek in general and ENT specifically are not dead. There IS interest. We ARE watching. Raising a serious chunk of change is fighting the TV establishment. And anything which protests the takeover of schadenfreude TV gets a thumbs-up in my book.

Zeke

02-10-2005, 04:54 AM

schadenfreude TV

Oo, I like that term for it. (The word schadenfreude has been in my head a lot lately, with all the "thank God ENT is cancelled" comments I've been seeing.)

Gatac

02-10-2005, 08:36 AM

Germany will yet conquer the world - memetically! Mwuahaha!

...why are you all looking at me like that? :)

I personally predict that critical mass on such a fund would be about a hundredthousand bucks. Gather that, and it'll atleast leave a serious impression.

Gatac

evay

02-10-2005, 10:27 AM

schadenfreude TVOo, I like that term for it.

Bitte. :) It neatly separates the home-makeover shows (which range from interesting to annoying but are harmless) and PBS "House" series from the unscripted shit based on competition, elimination, humiliation, trepidation, and salivation (over some prize). (Couldn't end the -tion streak there, could I?)

Chancellor Valium

02-10-2005, 11:28 AM

I must remember that phrase......but the problem occurs when you get the crossover between home makeover and schadenfreuder........a la a programme over here called "How clean is your house"........ :roll:

Wowbagger

02-12-2005, 08:50 PM

Just an update: TrekUnited.com has announced that they are planning to have their donation system up on Monday, as they work out legal questions and try to get charitable NPO status.

Also, I have applied for and apparently received the position of TU liason to FMV. It makes me feel so warm.

And a shout out to Dexter74656, a fellow fiver-lover who seems to have found his way over to TU. *wave!*

Kira

02-12-2005, 10:44 PM

Also, I have applied for and apparently received the position of TU liason to FMV. It makes me feel so warm.
I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I don't know what this guy's talking about. Anyone else ever heard of a site called "FMV"?

Sa'ar Chasm

02-12-2005, 11:28 PM

Isn't it some sort of men's magazine?

NeoMatrix

02-13-2005, 05:30 AM

Isn't it some sort of men's magazine?

Oh yeah, that one. Hmmm, sports fivers, otherwise known as highlights.

Chancellor Valium

02-13-2005, 09:51 AM

Sounds like a video/music store to me.........

Xeroc

02-13-2005, 07:32 PM

Wowbagger

02-15-2005, 04:49 AM

I... I...!

No comment.

Opium

02-15-2005, 05:43 AM

I just feel like posting in this thread. How's it going in here? :twisted:

BTW, Gatac, as you live in Germany, and I hope to be travelling there sometime in the near future...and good, not-so-well-known theatrical/movie/art places to go? Or any good places to see, things to look at, etc? :?:

Gatac

02-15-2005, 07:02 AM

Depends. Where do you plan to go, exactly? Germany, despite all reports to the contrary, is a big country. :)

Gatac

Opium

02-15-2005, 07:36 AM

Oh, I know Germany is big. It might only be half the size of BC, but it has twenty times the population, so twenty times the historical/artistic places to go. (that's my theory, anyways) And since BC has lots of artistic and some historical places...well...that makes Germany pretty huge!

Anyways, I hope to go all over, actually...I have family in the more Northern regions, and in the more Southern ones, and I probably will want to see Berlin...because it contains so much history. (not to see the nightlife or anything like. Nuh uh. Not at all)

It would probably be for a while...so any ideas you have (or just feel like talking/ranting/raving about) would be cool. :D

Gatac

02-15-2005, 02:36 PM

Where to start...Berlin is a great place, but a bit crowded. If you're looking for some culture, Potsdam and Leipzig are worth visiting, too. And of course, my hometown Magdeburg also has it's sights. :)

I haven't spent much time in the South, so I can't speak from experience.

It's a bit hard for me to list sights because, damn, there's so many of them. But travelling through all of Germany is a good idea; there's interesting things to see and do everywhere.

Gatac

Opium

02-16-2005, 12:43 AM

So Gatac, chances are, I won't be bored :)

Oh! And another important question...how far behind are you guys on CSI and ER? Like, what seasons are you on?

(we are on season 5 for CSI season 11 for ER)

Gatac

02-16-2005, 09:38 AM

I don't follow CSI, and ER's at the point where they feature Thandie Newton.

Gatac

PointyHairedJedi

02-16-2005, 10:20 PM

After this whole storyline is when I stopped watching ER altogether. I think it's at the stage now where they should just shoot it and then give it a decent burial.

Ginga

02-16-2005, 10:37 PM

I must admit, ER is boring me to pieces. Blergh.

However, CSI is still awesome. Although from what I've seen, I still think season 1 was the best, amazingly.

Wowbagger

02-17-2005, 03:33 AM

All countries outside the United States are teeny-weeny. And if you wish to challenge that, you can speak to Mister Missile. The President said so. And the President is always right. Always right. Always right. You are getting sleepy...

Another update, before Opium pulls us off course entirely: The donations page for TrekUnited.com is now up. They have made $22,380 in just two days, and media coverage is slowly beginning to build.

Donate!

And now, back to the TV show topic. I should know this by now, but what seasons of Star Trek are the various European countries on?

Kira

02-17-2005, 04:22 AM

All countries outside the United States are teeny-weeny.

::: looks at map of U.S. :::

::: looks at maps of Canada and Russia :::

::: laughs at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny" :::

Sa'ar Chasm

02-17-2005, 04:51 AM

::: laughs at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny" :::

Guys really don't like it when you do that, Kira.

Kira

02-17-2005, 04:54 AM

And you'd know because...?

Opium

02-17-2005, 07:59 AM

All countries outside the United States are teeny-weeny.

::: looks at map of U.S. :::

::: looks at maps of Canada and Russia :::

::: laughs at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny" :::

*joins in on laughing at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny"*

*Looks at China's size and population*

*Looks at India's population*

*laughs more*

Chancellor Valium

02-17-2005, 12:27 PM

All countries outside the United States are teeny-weeny.

::: looks at map of U.S. :::

::: looks at maps of Canada and Russia :::

::: laughs at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny" :::

:::Laughs at America's inferior economy, and the very attitude what caused 9/11 in the first place....:::

Chancellor Valium

02-17-2005, 12:30 PM

On a completely unrelated subject -- CGI Captain Scarlet. WTF? It doesn't change the fundamental flaw - all the characters are WOODEN! That, and the Voice of the Mysterons in itself. "THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE MYSTERONS! WE KNOW YOU CAN HEAR US, EARTHLINGS! NOW WE WILL TELL YOU OUR PLANS OUT OF SHEER STUPIDITY SO YOU CAN GO AND FOIL THEM!" Oh dear oh dear oh dear........ I've heard of tacky, but that's absurd.....

evay

02-17-2005, 01:57 PM

and the very attitude what caused 9/11 in the first place
Watch where you step, son.

Sa'ar Chasm

02-17-2005, 03:43 PM

Watch where you step, son.

Agreed. Let's not start arguing about serious stuff again.

And you'd know because...?

I've heard tell *smug look*

Zeke

02-17-2005, 04:16 PM

I don't do warnings in any official sense, Valium, but consider yourself warned. That comment was incredibly offensive and pointless.

Also, don't double-post or we'll eat you.

Chancellor Valium

02-17-2005, 04:38 PM

Warnings taken, apologies for any insult felt....

admiral sab

02-17-2005, 07:10 PM

getting this topic, back on topic, (GASP!) I thought I'd mention that Trekunited has in 2 and a half days raised over 25, 000 dollars. And that's without a whole lot of publicity. There's a rally scheduled in LA on Feb. 25 in front of the Paramount gates for those who want to let there presence and voice be heard. More info can be found of course at Saveenterprise.com

If you do want to donate go to Trekunited.com and do so. I haven't donated yet but I plan to. What the heck. We get most of the money back if it doesn't work out anyways. Besides, I spend at least 25 a week on going out to eat. I can eat at home this week. lol it's not a lot, but it will add up to the majority.

Sa'ar Chasm

02-17-2005, 08:10 PM

$25,000, you can look like a woman tonight...

Sorry, channeling Guess Who songs.

Wowbagger

02-18-2005, 05:45 AM

All countries outside the United States are teeny-weeny.

::: looks at map of U.S. :::

::: looks at maps of Canada and Russia :::

::: laughs at Wowbagger and his "teeny weeny" :::

Clearly, you are a propaganda-spewing Freedom hater who does not love Liberty and supports Teh-ra--I mean, Terror--and is a member of the nucular-mongering Axis of Evil. And my President, God the Father of the Constitution and Protector of Libertry and the United States Itself bless Him--I mean, him--has told me not to listen to nattering nabobs of negativisim like you. After all, "There's an old... saying in Tennessee-- I know it's in Texas, gotta be in Tennessee--'at says, uh, 'Fool me once... shame,' uh, 'shame on... you... You fool me, I can't get fooled agin."

Sorry, a little overboard there. Watching C-Span's partisan hacks can do that to you, I suppose. Yes. Right.

Anywho, it's true! TrekUnited is doing quite well, thanks in part to relentless spammers such as myself. On that subject, I apologize again to Fuyu Ginga. She knows what I'm talking about. :D

EDIT: I hate double posts, so here's today's update: TU has reached $27,715 thus far. Chief of Operations Chris has issued his first weekly State of the Campaign (http://www.trekunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=622) Address. And it was a pleasure to find that Five Minute Forum-Goer AdmiralSab has arrived (which I somehow missed when it happened 4 days ago), as has the Constructively Criticizing and Most Mysterious IJ3 GAF. Media coverage is beginning, with Tim Braezel's ABC Radio broadcast yesterday and CNN.com's noticing us two days ago. That will be all.

Zeke, have you considered getting a Random Dancing Elephant emoticon for this board?

Ginga

02-26-2005, 07:36 AM

Hmm, Yahoo news mentions this money raising thing. (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050226/en_nm/media_startrek_dc)

admiral sab

02-26-2005, 12:45 PM

yeah that's because of the rally in LA yesterday... well there were rallies worldwide. Manny Coto himself was at the rally as were several of the cast and crew. if you want to check it out go to Trekunited.com or Saveenterprise.com they have pics up. so far over 50, 000 has been raised and they have several corporate and company pledges.

richardson

02-26-2005, 09:36 PM

uh, oh...

dear god, the trekkies are beginning to completely and totally lose it, and normal people who don't want reality tv are joining in!

Where do I sign up?

Wowbagger

02-26-2005, 10:18 PM

Nice avatar, richardson.

$54,000! That means we're... we're... 0.2% of the way to $35,000,000! Almost!

Yay!

richardson

02-27-2005, 01:19 AM

Well, considering that it's been said that 10,000 bucks would get attention, things are staring to happen.

Paramount might have to re-consider it's decision...

*Finds a nuke to use on UPN....* :twisted:

Opium

02-27-2005, 10:08 AM

I've got an idea...

Everyone give up TV and join theatre!
:D ?

:) ?

:( ?

:cry: ?

richardson

02-27-2005, 01:41 PM

*Everyone glares at opium as crickets chirp. Richardson pulls out a large mario mallet*

Get 'em!!! *Chases opium out of the topic*

PointyHairedJedi

02-27-2005, 04:54 PM

Now now, that's not nice. You might at least have brought enough comedy blunt weapons for everyone!

Chancellor Valium

02-27-2005, 05:34 PM

Too right. Anyhow, I shall defend Opium's right to post with my dreaded (and dreadful) daftsabre!

My Ally is the Daft Side
*lunges at richardson with deadly aim*

richardson

02-28-2005, 03:10 AM

And I lead the fox side! *dukes it out in some kind of weird SW parody or 2 completely unknown sides duking it out with weird weapons*

Opium

02-28-2005, 03:13 AM

*takes out some foam bats and a stage knife*

Hah! Take that! The sting of the foam is almost annoying!

Chancellor Valium

02-28-2005, 11:36 AM

^Couldn't you have done "from hell's heart I stab thee!"? NVM.
Richardson, your not going to do the "When I left you" line? :shock: GASP!

richardson

02-28-2005, 10:43 PM

Grrrrr!!!!!

I shall chase you around the moons of loony, and around the insane bend and through the flame of total moronity before I give you up! *Chases after opium

Wowbagger

03-01-2005, 12:09 AM

*Releases a horde of evil, bloodsucking, disgusting, MOSQUITOES!*

I win.

Anyhow, sorry to pull this thread back on topic, but I, being privileged with bonus information as TrekUnited U.S. Midwest Regional Coordinator, have just learned that The Tim will be making a MAJOR announcement tommorow, March 1st, 2005, at some time during the day, or, (blatantly borrowing psuedo-Zekian allusions) "soon" thereafter.

I know what it is! I know what it is!

March 1st. Be there.

By the way, $65,425!

Chancellor Valium

03-01-2005, 12:15 PM

Grrrrr!!!!!

I shall chase you around the moons of loony, and around the insane bend and through the flame of total moronity before I give you up! *Chases after opium

Ahem. Zeke? I think richardson wants some major surgery. Yes, the "with two rocks and a hacksaw" kind......

evay

03-01-2005, 10:13 PM

apparently Tim's server is so overwhelmed from being flooded with hits that it FOOMed on itself. Announcement was scheduled for 5:05pm EST, but everything's down. Victim of his own success, poor lad. You thought smurfing was bad...try several million very anxious Trekkies! :lol:

Zeke

03-01-2005, 10:14 PM

Not to distract anyone from the tension and suspense of this moment, but... "smurfing"?

Wowbagger

03-01-2005, 11:16 PM

I want Zeke to feel special (cause he just bribed me into telling him), so I'm not going to tell you where the press release about the announcement has washed up on the internet's Great Shore of Jetsam in the form of a TU "leak."

UPDATE!: The server at TrekUnited.com is back up, but the forum is not. According to Vulcan_Soul (a high-ranking admin), TrekUnited crashed due to a hacking attempt. In possibly related news, the community message boards at StarTrek.com almost simultaneously stopped accepting posts due to an "Error 500."

Derek

03-02-2005, 12:59 AM

Not to distract anyone from the tension and suspense of this moment, but... "smurfing"?
Check out the Jargon File for all your interent definitions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/smurf.html (definition 2)

Xeroc

03-02-2005, 03:26 AM

Wow!

$ 3,068,820.00 !

That's a serious chunk of cash! (About 9% of the way there!)

This campaign might actually work! :D I sure hope it does!

Thankfully, most modern networks stop smurfing nowadays.

PointyHairedJedi

03-02-2005, 08:38 PM

Hmm. Maybe if I get msyelf cancelled, someone here will start a fan campaign to save me, and then I can get three million dollars! Yes!

Damn, sometimes I just outdo myself. It's not easy being a genius, you know.

Wowbagger

03-02-2005, 09:44 PM

How much would everyone be willing to pay to Save PointyHairedJedi? (goto www.savePHJ.com and www.PointyHairedUnited.com)(Not really).

I have... uh, $0.06 USD, five bucks Canadian, and a bunch of orthodontal rubber bands I'd be willing to throw into the pot.

richardson

03-02-2005, 09:55 PM

:shock:

Wow... in less than 2 days, 3 million was raised. People really don't like reality tv! It's the turn of the tide!

MaverickZer0

03-03-2005, 01:30 AM

*waves a flag with the "Survivor" symbol slashed out*

Woo!

Wowbagger

03-05-2005, 04:51 AM

Zaphire just posted his very cool, if hopelessly sentimental Trailer (http://www.zaphire.ca/trekunited/) at TrekUnited. I recommend that you all go see it.

$3.1 Million coming up fast!

richardson

03-05-2005, 01:20 PM

Now I suspect that enterprise will be restored. No way paramount officals can ignore 3 million raised in the sake of saving one show.

Somebody had a big roll of big ones lying around.

Anonymous

03-05-2005, 02:26 PM

yeah and Spike TV is definitely interested in picking it up. Plus Tim is in talk with Paramount now.

Kira

03-05-2005, 04:15 PM

Now I suspect that enterprise will be restored. No way paramount officals can ignore 3 million raised in the sake of saving one show.
Of course they can. First off, it isn't fans as a whole -- 99% of that money was contributed by one relatively small group of people. Two, the money doesn't do Paramount or UPN any good. It doesn't boost their ratings, or get them more advertising dollars. They can't be unaware of the cult following that Enterprise -- or any Trek series, for that matter -- has. The people donating money are the ones who were already watching the show, and that apparently wasn't enough. Third, UPN is trying to shift its demographic to target young women; that doesn't give them a lot of incentive to keep Enterprise on the air if it's not performing well. The fan (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3123655&st=0) campaign (http://www.saveveronicamars.com) in favor of UPN's Veronica Mars (http://www.upn.com/shows/veronica_mars_tmpl/index.shtml) has, I think, a way better shot, because it fits with UPN's target audience. Of course, it helps that VM has almost unanimous critical aclaim and is easily the best show currently on television... it's just the best show that not enough people are watching.

As I've said before -- the best shot Enterprise has is getting off UPN and onto a network like SciFi or Spike whose target demographic is, well, more like a stereotypic Trekkie than a 19 year old girl.

Chancellor Valium

03-05-2005, 07:55 PM

richardson

03-05-2005, 11:16 PM

Well, I think people are beginning to notice, and I have a feeling people would rather watch bad trek than even worse reality tv. at least the ones who's brain hasn't already been rotted out.

Chancellor Valium

03-06-2005, 10:21 AM

Not many of them left :wink:

Opium

03-06-2005, 10:37 AM

Maybe everyone should try...

Star Trek: The Theatrical Production

See the limelight reflecting off of Picard's head!

See the fantastic melodrama!

Hear the stereo sound!

Feel the sexual tension!

Chancellor Valium

03-06-2005, 04:57 PM

LOL! Can I be in it? "I will not violate the Prime Directive! Send down an away team to investigate." :lol: :D

Wowbagger

04-16-2005, 06:38 AM

Two bloody good articles today:

http://www.trektoday.com/news/150405_01.shtml

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/604/604625p1.html

The latter is a stub until next week, due to sad tech problems, but it still appears to be good news. We're authentic!

That's all for tonight. I'll let ya'll read those yourselves and avoid spinning them myself. Too lazy for the whole propaganda thing tonight. Won't be able to check in on the "Bound" thread until Monday because my STUPID FUSE BLEW AND I LOST THE TAPE! Anyhow, almost a perfect day.

Finally saw the first episode of Atlantis. Finally got the joke in 'Moebius II.' He he. Gateship-1.

Zeke

04-16-2005, 07:24 AM

This is very interesting, and it's exactly the kind of thing TU needed to do to have any chance at all. I remain optimistic -- guardedly. There are a hundred things that will still make this difficult. But God knows I hope TU succeeds, and I think we as Trek fans should be behind them 100%. Gene would be proud.

PointyHairedJedi

04-16-2005, 06:41 PM

It's interesting to be sure, but I still can't say I rate TU's chances at actually getting ENT back on the air. I am impressed though by the fact that this much has been achieved, which if nothing else shows Paramount that the fanbase is just as dedicated now as it has ever been. Like I said, I don't think they'll save ENT, but it might make Paramount think twice about cancelling series VI (which I don't doubt there will be, even if we have to wait a few years) prematurely.

Wowbagger

04-17-2005, 06:13 AM

For those of you who still care about the TrekUnited effort, we the savies have just heard this from Almighty Tim:

*Major Announcement Tomorrow at 7:00 EST, Chat Room and Trekunited and SE

We have a major announcement tomorrow at 7 est about our campaign. Please tell our members to be here.. In case the server crashes that is hosting the forums, we will also have the full stories up at Trek United as well as Save Enterprise Main page.
We will not announce anything until this time..
Thanks
Tim

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I would rather TRY and fail, then succeed at doing nothing! --Tim Brazeal

http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3681

There is a lot of speculation as to whether this is THE announcement, whether it's good or bad, or whether Tim is not explaining just because it's not as big as it looks. However it plays out, we'll find out tomorrow. Immediately after the announcement, Al Vinci, apparent producer-supporter of the cause, will be in the TU Live Chat room.

The letters on the news ticker are in bigger, brighter red than they were for the $3 Million announcement, so this could be REALLY big. I hope to see that server crash with traffic, so come on out!