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NeoMatrix
03-20-2004, 01:52 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Just testing this out, seeing if it works.[/color:post_uid0]

Nic Corelli
03-20-2004, 03:36 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I can`t quite decide between Voyager and Deep Space Nine... but I voted for Voyager.

But I don`t see much point in All of the Above/None of the Above/Other options. "All" isn`t very decisive, and that`s the whole point here... Other.. well, these are the only Trek series I know of, heehee (except of TAS, that`s missing in the poll) and None... well, if None is your choice, don`t vote, I say... :D[/color:post_uid0]

taya17
03-20-2004, 06:16 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Same here. IMHO, [i:post_uid0]Deep Space Nine[/i:post_uid0] is the best of all the series, but I still cast my vote for [i:post_uid0]Voyager[/i:post_uid0] because it's the only series I have watched from start to end.

Besides, much as I like Sisko, he just doesn't have the same attraction to me that Janeway does... :D[/color:post_uid0]

Opium
03-20-2004, 06:51 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I guess I'm the only one who voted for DS9 so far, guess I'm not a real Trek fan, oh well :p[/color:post_uid0]

Scooter
03-20-2004, 07:13 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]At first I was one of the ones who called DS9 "Deep Sleep Nine", but it started to grow on me--especially after very Brooks started to seem interested in what was going on... :)

But when it comes to raw emotions and red-blooded action, nothing compares to TOS. Voyager and TNG seem sedate by comparison to me.[/color:post_uid0]

Opium
03-20-2004, 08:05 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Oh wow! No one voted for TNG: Next Gen so far! It's certianly the second-best Trek, the most solid throughout the seasons, and the most entertaining in every ep.[/color:post_uid0]

Michiel
03-20-2004, 08:16 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well, I voted for Enterprise. The temporal cold war, the Xindi, etc. Enterprise and DS9 have this ongoing storyline I like. I can't find that in the other series. Maybe in Voyager, a little. But not enough. DS9 would be a close second.[/color:post_uid0]

AKAArzosah
03-20-2004, 09:34 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Pity it was 'Star Trek' series' and not 'Gene Roddenberry created' series', because you know what I'd pick![/color:post_uid0]

Michiel
03-20-2004, 10:33 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Nope. What? Earth Final Conflict? ;)

(Which I like, by the way. The quote in my signature was given in conclusion of one of its episodes.)[/color:post_uid0]

Celeste
03-20-2004, 03:38 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]That was a hard choice. -_- I started on Voyager, and absoultly love all those characters. But DS9 had the awesome story arcs that Enterprise is also doing. But I have to vote for Voyager because it was my first and the thing that brought me to where I am today. From these forums, to my Role Playing, Voyager started my fanaticism ::Bows head::

:crying: Isn't that just beautiful?[/color:post_uid0]

PointyHairedJedi
03-20-2004, 06:51 PM
[quote:post_uid0="Opium"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Oh wow! No one voted for TNG: Next Gen so far! It's certianly the second-best Trek, the most solid throughout the seasons, and the most entertaining in every ep.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well, if it was "Second Best Star Trek Series" then TNG would be a shoe in.

I'm a TOSer by the way.[/color:post_uid0]

MaverickZer0
03-20-2004, 07:34 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]And here I was, thinking Enterprise would need a few more fans...

Anyone know if the results of the 'Save One Show' thing are out yet?[/color:post_uid0]

Opium
03-21-2004, 08:25 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Next Gen seems to be everyone's second favorite Star Trek. Almost all fans like it! So really, it's the overall fave, although not many peoples fave...if that makes sense.
It was totally the most solid of all the series.[/color:post_uid0]

Celeste
03-21-2004, 03:53 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Actualy, my order goes like this:

Voyager
DS9
Enterprise
Next Gen
Original Series

Yeah, Next Gen has all the recognizable characters, but I don't care much for their story line. Maybe if I was older and grew up in the time it was made I'd like it better, but no. I do however enjoy the movies. That counts for something. :)[/color:post_uid0]

MaverickZer0
03-21-2004, 09:27 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Next Gen seemed to me stiff and wooden. The characters were just a little too perfect. Now, give me an ex-con pilot or an engineer tormented by his sister's death and I can watch that show forever. ;)[/color:post_uid0]

Michiel
03-21-2004, 09:50 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]True, but TNG does have Ro Laren.[/color:post_uid0]

Zeke
03-22-2004, 12:18 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I have several "best" Treks -- each is just a different kind of best. TNG is the one I grew up with, and the first one I think of when I hear "Star Trek." DS9 is the one I consider best-written overall. Voyager is my favourite, the closest to my heart. Enterprise is the most fun and holds my interest the most intently. TOS is the most basic -- it's Star Trek at its simplest and purest.[/color:post_uid0]

Zeke
03-22-2004, 02:36 AM
And hey, this thread should be in Science Fiction. (moves it)

NAHTMMM
03-22-2004, 03:31 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Nic Corelli"]Other.. well, these are the only Trek series I know of, heehee (except of TAS, that`s missing in the poll)[/quote:post_uid0]
There's always New Frontier :dead: and Starfleet Corps of Engineers...



And I voted for the original series. DS9 might be better, I don't know, but the original is definitely my favorite for now. :) The characters are probably the primary reason for that.[/color:post_uid0]

Standback
03-22-2004, 08:15 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]DS9 for me. Best. Story arcs. EVAR.[/color:post_uid0]

Opium
03-22-2004, 09:22 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]YAY! Another DS9 fan!

My list is...(now that I'm legally a grown-up) :p
1. DS9
2. Next Gen
3. Enterprise/OS
5. Voyager

But in the 90's when I was kid/teenager it was...
1. Voyager pretty much tied with
1.5. Next Gen
3. DS9
4. OS

Wow, I get analytical at night...[/color:post_uid0]

Quinalla
03-23-2004, 07:24 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]My order would be:

1. DS9
2. Next Gen/Original
4. Voyager
5. Enterprise

I personally think they really dropped the ball with Voyager, that show could have been so much more than it was IMO and Enterprise isn't done yet, but so far it rates last. Original Trek and Next Gen are too close to call for me, both I enjoyed a lot, but DS9 surpasses them all in my book anyway :) I have never been sadder to have a series end and happier to be able to buy the episodes on DVD.

I have to agree that Next Gen doesn't elicit nearly as strong of emotions that any of the other series do. Most people think it was good, but not the best, kinda weird how that works.[/color:post_uid0]

Marc
03-30-2004, 04:48 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]>> Next Gen seems to be everyone's second favorite Star Trek. <<

In my case (and not surprisingly to anyone, I'm sure), NextGen is my first-place favourite. It improves on the Original Series in many ways while preserving much of the original spirit of TOS. It also benefited from coming along relatively early in Trek's now very long (nearly 40-year) history, so it had the twin advantages of being young enough to be fresh while being old enough to be mature. It also didn't have nearly as much competition from other TV sci-fi shows, since there were few of those at the time compared to today and the recent past.

The post-NextGen shows are enjoyable (I've watched every single episode of them), and in some cases are more daring (DS9 was famous for pushing the envelope), but in some cases came across as repetitive and stilted. We've also seen some serious continuity problems -- for instance with Voyager running into aliens it supposedly left behind several seasons ago (such as the Talaxian colony we saw at the very end), or with, well, a lot of Enterprise. And while I'm hardly a fan of Robert Beltran, he *does* make a valid point when he complains that Voyager was overly fond of showing formulaic battle sequences in which the action consisted of Chakotay counting down what percentage of the shields was left.[/color:post_uid0]

Gatac
03-30-2004, 11:03 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hm, this is tough.

I grew up with Next Generation. I connect most to the characters, and there's the staples of episodes that just plain rule. (The Inner Light or The Defector, for example...and I loved Disaster, too.) But in comparison, it's a bit stiff. Plus, I've watched it to death, and when a rerun comes on, it's always 50/50 on whether I can watch it. The later seasons are usually better, because as much as I dislike saying it, too much Roddenberry really spoils a series.

DS9 was always my unloved middle child of Trek. It arrived in a period of my life when I was not too interested in TV in general, and the few episodes I caught never seemed to be that interesting. Now that I'm watching the reruns more, it seems like a damn good series, combining deep plots and good action. (I mean, the retaking of DS9 - dizzamn...) The one thing that irks me about the series a bit is Avery Brooks. He gives Sisko this slightly psychopathic edge that I'm not entirely comfortable with, though I do admit I love it when he does his creepy little smile. Noteably, DS9 is also the only series of which I own a video (the Past Tense two-parter). Why, I'm not entirely sure.

Voyager. Ah, now we're cooking with gas. Objectively, it's got a whole load of stinkers in it's line-up, but I've always loved it to death. Why? Because it has a sense of adventure, a "we against everybody else" feel that jibes with me. It's also got the most colorful crew, and one of the best characters ever (the Doctor). Also, I always felt that it's the series that can poke fun at itself the most - you can't tell me anybody on the set of Macrocosm read the script and thought "Gee, what insightful and deep science-fiction we have here." Also, it's got the largest amount of kick-butt CGI. I don't care what you thought about Endgame, but the first time Voyager activated that ablative armor, my jaw dropped.

Enterprise is here almost entirely on the merits of it's 3rd season. It couldn't stand there without the first two seasons, but they were - well, just not interesting, most of the time. Now, however, we get heart-stoppers like Twilight, and emotional sucker-punches like Similitude and Azati Prime. (Don't tell me you didn't feel anything when the Enterprise gets pounded to near-scrap - that's TV that hurts, folks.) Besides, did any Trek series have a great first season?

TOS is, I fear, right out of the competition. While the dynamic between the big three is always nice to watch, it's too episodic for my taste, and showing it's age. Watching it, I'm almost always catching myself thinking about how far Trek (and TV in general) has come all those years.

My favourites, in order, are therefore:

Voyager (Queen of my heart, so to speak)
Enterprise (clawing it's way upwards)
DS9 (Dominion War? Yes, please!)
TNG (though I love the TNG movies)
TOS (Sorry, folks.)

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

ijdgaf
03-30-2004, 07:56 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I'm going to echo Marc's predictability (but not his choice), and say that my favorite is the original series.

Why? I don't think I can answer that terribly succinctly, or without saying anything about it that the other shows do not contain.

My first instinct was to say the characters. Certainly known for having the most famous Trek characters, the original series also had some of the most interesting. The big three dynamic really hasn't been surpassed by any other series. [i:post_uid0]Enterprise[/i:post_uid0] here is the real culprit in my eyes; the other Trek's tried to mix up its major major character interactions, but the newest series has merely attempted to mimic to the letter Spock, McCoy, and Kirk's dynamic. However, modern Trek has certainly given some interesting characters in its own right. I guess why I like the originals the best is their fluid interaction, not the characters alone.

I do think the acting on the original was top notch too. Over the top? Certainly. But it felt more like watching a performance on stage than anything else. You could really tell the cast was having a lot of fun with their roles.

Perhaps the most important thing about the original was the fact that it [i:post_uid0]focused[/i:post_uid0] on the characters. Modern Trek is at its best when it keeps plot to a minimum and character on max. I don't watch Trek for the science; it makes a cool backdrop, but characters have [i:post_uid0]ALWAYS[/i:post_uid0] interested me more than plot. This is where I feel The Next Generation had its major fault. It simply had the blandest characters of all the series. It was a good show in its own right, but I think the modern Trek formula was nailed a bit better with Deep Space Nine and, occaisionally, Voyager.

Also, the first show was the only show to be great from the very start. A feat which is still impressive when you look at how long each modern show has taken to get its feel. Hell, I'm impressed.

As a side note, I find it somewhat interesting that Voyager is doing so much better than the other shows. Yeah, I know, that's what this site was originally all about, and still is in name (though when was the last Voyager fiver? eh?). Still, I know Voyager gets a really bad rap from a lot of people. If you ran this poll at TrekBBS, you know right off the bat that Voyager would not be first. Probably not second either. Very interesting....[/color:post_uid0]