Should I watch Return of the King? - Shameless attempt to get 100 post count.

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]LOL I've vaguely heard something about this movie, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. My wonderful husband bought this movie today and I think it might be good. ;)

Sab[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Great googly moogly, what a movie. There's a thread about it in Miscellaneous, I think, chronicling a great Meetup of three forumgoers (myself, Nan and Marc) and two Deltachatters (Shorty and BMG), as well as thoughts on the movie itself.

Nan ate all my popcorn, by the way.[/color:post_uid0]

[Kira]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well, my gut reaction is FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, YES! but there's a catch: if you slept through Fellowship, yawned through Two Towers, or never saw either, then you'll probably watch Return of the King and wonder what the heck the fuss is about. Would you watch The Empire Strikes Back without watching either Star Wars or Return of the Jedi? Well, you could, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense - it's designed to work better as a whole, and LotR is even more so than SW. If you're willing to put the time in to get the whole trilogy from start to finish, it will have been well worth the effort I promise you. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[quote:post_uid6="Sa'ar Chasm"][color=#000000:post_uid6]Nan ate all my popcorn, by the way.[/color:post_uid6][/quote:post_uid6]
[color=#000000:post_uid6]Meh, heavy lifting works up an appettite. You could've fit a [i:post_uid6]cadaver[/i:post_uid6] in that bag of yours. Weighed about right for one, too. :P

Sab, one bit of advice: take aspirin with you and take them around hour two with some water. Otherwise you'll get a Dolby Surround Sound headache.[/color:post_uid6]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]LOL ok well this post was mainly just to get my hit count to 100 since I had planned on watching ROTK and might I say it was fabulous! I didn't get to see it in the Theatre, but wow! We have the DVD player hooked into our mega speakers and WOW I thought the house was shaking at some point and time! it really was a good movie. Best of the three, even. But the final Matrix was the best for me too.

Sa'ar Chasm: Um not to be technical or anything, BUT Nan and Marc are also DCers. Well Marc was here before he was there, but Nan was DEFINITELY a DCer before SHE came here. I know this because we were there BEFORE Five Minute Voyager was born. Of course then she was known as The Ensign. Or Ensign Wing. Heh. Memories. ;)

Sab[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I found Revolutions a bit disappointing, myself...but then, I often find that many big budget action flicks of the last few years just fall absolutely flat for me. It seems that there's a certain bracket of about 10 to 30 million $ budget that is growing increasingly rare, but a surprising number of them are among my favourites...For example, Crying Freeman and Equilibrium.

But yeah, the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy had consistently good quality, and Return of the King rocked. Matrix, on the other hand, only seemed to drop off...the first movie was definately the strongest imho.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Kira"]Would you watch The Empire Strikes Back without watching either Star Wars or Return of the Jedi?[/quote:post_uid0]
*[i:post_uid0]Shakes head slowly[/i:post_uid0]*

Anyway, I've yet to see RotK myself, though I've seen FotR (and I think TTT, I can't be sure). I wasn't overly taken with them actually, but I suppose I'm thankful - they could have easily been twenty times worse than they were.[/color:post_uid0]

[mudshark]

[quote:post_uid0="admiral sab"][color=#000000:post_uid0]... BUT Nan and Marc are also DCers. Well Marc was here before he was there, but Nan was DEFINITELY a DCer before he came here.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0][b:post_uid0]Nan[/b:post_uid0] was a [i:post_uid0]he[/i:post_uid0] before she came here? :eek:






(kidding - :p )[/color:post_uid0]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]lol that was a friggin typo! Geez you make one little mistake...

;) Sab, who knows Nan is a girl and hopes she doesn't kill her for that frellin' typo![/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]17 [i:post_uid0]and[/i:post_uid0] Nan. My, you do rack 'em up quick, don't you?[/color:post_uid0]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]lol don't forget Zeke. :D Still don't see a dinosaur though...
The funny thing is they are all DCers (or were at one point and time- Marc is the only one that has posted over there this week-ahem.) and for some reason they want to kill me...may have something to do with me outranking them. ;)

erm, maybe not.

By the way, I suddenly remembered the edit function so...heh. The evidence is gone. I will deny all.

Sab[/color:post_uid0]

[Celeste]

[quote:post_uid0="Kira"][color=#000000:post_uid0]If you're willing to put the time in to get the whole trilogy from start to finish, it will have been well worth the effort I promise you. :D[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Try watchin all the extended edition ones back to back. You'll be twitching by the time you reach the 18 endings of Return of the King.[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Nan was a he before she came here?[/quote:post_uid0]

Ye ghods. I've *hugged* her. Him. Whatever.

*sharpiesharpiesharpiesharpiesharpie*

(I kid because I love. Platonically.)[/color:post_uid0]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I don't know what ya'll are talking about!

Sab, denying everything.[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"]Ye ghods. I've *hugged* her. Him. Whatever.[/quote:post_uid0]

He's also seen me wearing a dress too, IIRC. Shocking, I know.

[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"]*sharpiesharpiesharpiesharpiesharpie*[/quote:post_uid0]

Heheheheheheheh.

[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"](I kid because I love. Platonically.)[/quote:post_uid0]

Like Luke and Leia. Or, of course, Lucy and Ethel...[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]He's also seen me wearing a dress too, IIRC. Shocking, I know.[/quote:post_uid0]

No I haven't. You declined to wear one for New Years.

[quote:post_uid0]Like Luke and Leia.[/quote:post_uid0]

"Leia's my sister...*pause* Leia's my [b:post_uid0]sister?![/b:post_uid0]
*sharpiesharpiesharpiesharpiesharpie*

[quote:post_uid0]Or, of course, Lucy and Ethel... [/quote:post_uid0]

So does that make me Lucy or Ethel?[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Who are Lucy and Ethel?[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"]No I haven't. You declined to wear one for New Years.[/quote:post_uid0]

Really? Hmmm.

[quote:post_uid0]So does that make me Lucy or Ethel?[/quote:post_uid0]

Lucy. Just because. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Don't worry, catalina, I'm just as lost as you are...[/color:post_uid0]

[Tate]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Who are Lucy and Ethel?[/quote:post_uid0]

Lucy; Lucy MacGillicuddy Ricardo in the classic sit-com "I Love Lucy"
Ethel; Ethel Mertz, Lucy's neighbor, landlady, and best friend.

By the way, ROTK! Can't wait to see it on DVD. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hopefully you`ll have more luck with ROTK than I had with FOTR on DVD, when it froze 6 times and I couldn`t watch the movie. And it was a brand new DVD.

It was quite similar with Rat Race, Finding Nemo, About a Boy and Frida.

Oh yeah. DVDs rule.[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Uh, Nic, you might want to take a good hard look at your DVD player...if DVDs constantly fail on it, that suggests more of a compatibility issue. It would be a hell of a coincidence to have five different DVDs which are all faulty in the same way.

How old is the DVD player? Could it be that it has problems with dual-layer DVDs?

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!
Watch LOTR: ROTK!

Even better, watch it now, then get(rent or buy) all three Extended Editions once ROTK:EE comes out, and get an overdose of Leggy, erm,Legolas, Frodo, Sam, Boromir. Yes. I said Boromir! :O[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]It happened on THREE different DVD players. Mine, my friend`s and my Dad`s. One of which was brand new.

They`re just evil.[/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Maybe you're buying, like North America coded DVD's and using DVD players with, like, a European or Asian code? Were the DVDs or players on sale? Have the DVD players been sitting on uneven surfaces? Has anything put pressure on the bottom or tops of the DVD players? Were they gifts from a man in a top hat how wandered around the mall in a dazed and confused manner?[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]*fondly strokes his emergency region-code free DVD player*

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I think we've got one of those too.[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Nope, Opium, those were European code DVD players and European code DVDs. Some of them from the videostore, some of them bought, brand new.

Eeeeeevil![/color:post_uid0]

[NAHTMMM]

[color=#000000:post_uid1]Did you put them in right-side-up? ;)[/color:post_uid1]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]:p[/color:post_uid0]

[Wade, The Sane Commodore]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]No no no, you should watch a series of movies that have captains commandeering their starships before they are decommissioned and then they go back in time and save the world, and then a redshirt dies, and um... Data and the Borg Queen... Water-polo![/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]New Multi-Government Campaign:
[i:post_uid0][b:post_uid0] Remember, put DVD's in shiny side down, or they will not work![/i:post_uid0][/b:post_uid0][/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Sounds like it was initiated by Bush himself. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Yes, along with...

[i:post_uid0][b:post_uid0] President's Warning: Pretzels cause choking! Chew before swallowing.
You can fall off your bike! Always a helmet, knee, elbow, shin, shoulder, neck guards!
Always have cue cards when saying tough words!
[/i:post_uid0][/b:post_uid0][/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Always wear reflecting clothing, so that no-one bounces into you when there's a powercut. :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[taya17]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]This is a little late, but Sab:

"DA! Povratak Kralja je VRLO DOBRO!"

Or rather, "YES! ROTK is TEH R0X0R!"

Watch it. Watch it. Watch it. Watch it. After all, you can't go wrong with 13 Oscars :)

Sorry. I just spent fifteen minutes explaining to my dad why the Croatian translation of "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" only had four words instead of ten, because he was moogling at the poster on my wall and going "What language is [i:post_uid0]that[/i:post_uid0]?!" (My dad is sometimes a little slow to catch on.)

And yes, I do remember my The Ensign with great fondness. We were all so young then... :)[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[quote:post_uid0="taya17"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Sorry. I just spent fifteen minutes explaining to my dad why the Croatian translation of "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" only had four words instead of ten, because he was moogling at the poster on my wall and going "What language is [i:post_uid0]that[/i:post_uid0]?!" (My dad is sometimes a little slow to catch on.)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Let's see. Lord Rings: Return King plus some Latin/German-like cases? :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[quote:post_uid0="taya17"][color=#000000:post_uid0]And yes, I do remember my The Ensign with great fondness. We were all so young then... :)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I think I was, like, 13.

Must.. cleanse... mind.. of... fangirlyness...[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]You`re right, Evil Dutch Woman. :p

Quick! To the EvilDutchmobile![/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Remind me never to try learning Croatian. I thought German was hell, and that's a Germanic language. :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[taya17]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I'm sure Nits is going to keep reminding you after he receives that long, whiney email from me about tenses and word order. Being the [i:post_uid0]only[/i:post_uid0] native Croatian speaker on board, he would be in DEEP trouble if everybody took it into their heads to learn Croatian... :D :D :D

(And EDW: yep! "Gospodar Prstenova: Povratak Kralja"...)[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]So far 17 bugged me about it, Cat wanted to know how you say "cat" in Croatian, Nan wanted "donuts", NAH some mathematical terms, and Sa`ar wanted to know the password of his fake LJ, which is also in Croatian.

AAAAAAAAH! :D[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Mmmm.... doughnuts....[/color:post_uid0]



Edited By Nan on 1086676004

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]And no-one ever asked me about Dutch words. Except Sa'ar, who just wanted to know what it sounds like. :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Aren't there some similarities between Dutch and German? Cus I was watching showcase (it was one of its foriegn films,not one of its smutty tv shows) and I could make out a few words of Dutch...okay, so I only know about 200 words of German right now...but um, yah.[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Depends on what German dialect you're working with. Dutch is pretty close to so called "Platt", which is an older Northern German dialect. The similarities stem from the so-called Hanse, a pretty big trading company that dominated the Baltic seas for quite some time. On the other hand, modern German is essentially a streamlined Frankenstein of many different local dialects strung together into a halfway coherent monster. It is true that there are similarities, and if you happen to speak Platt, you can usually discern what somebody talking in Dutch is yapping about. On the other hand, most people don't speak Platt, so there.

People like Rudy Carrell or Linda De Mol, who are originally Dutch, have long been show icons here in Germany and been speaking German for decades, but you can still clearly hear their accent. I find it kinda cute, myself, but then, I'm one of those superior snotty central Germans who thinks that the Bavarians need to get a damn clue.

Ah, cultural diversity.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Dutch is pretty close to so called "Platt", which is an older Northern German dialect.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]That's freaky. Our dialect word for dialect is plat. :D

Yeah, Germans from that region often call us, and I can just speak Dutch to them. :lol: (I refuse to speak German, unless strictly necessary.)
It's also a well-known fact that [i:post_uid0]our[/i:post_uid0] dialect sounds a lot like German, too.[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I tell you, people, linguistics is like Six Degrees without Kevin Bacon.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Ah, you kooky Europeans with your kooky languages. Why can't you all learn something simple, like English for instance? :D[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Actually, I'm wondering about that too. But then again, most Dutch people do know English. It's the Germans and Italians that are the problem. :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Oh, please. My grandmother knows English.

Talk to the pizza people. :)

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[mudshark]

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"][color=#000000:post_uid0]I tell you, people, linguistics is like Six Degrees without Kevin Bacon.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Oh, it's [i:post_uid0]way[/i:post_uid0] more fun than that. :p
[quote:post_uid0]The similarities stem from the so-called Hanse, a pretty big trading company that dominated the Baltic seas for quite some time. [/quote:post_uid0]More resembling a mediaeval guild than a discrete company -- also known as the Hanseatic League -- their control of the Baltic trade meant that, to a large extent, they controlled trade in all of northern Europe for most of the Middle Ages.

Plattdeutsch = Low(land) German, which is more closely related to Dutch and Frisian.

Hochdeutsch = High(land) German, which is that foreign language spoken by the Bavarians and especially the Austrians. ;)[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="mudshark"]Plattdeutsch = Low(land) German, which is more closely related to Dutch and Frisian.

Hochdeutsch = High(land) German, which is that foreign language spoken by the Bavarians and especially the Austrians. ;)[/quote:post_uid0]
So you don't consider Dutch a foreign language? :p

[quote:post_uid0]Oh, please. My grandmother knows English.[/quote:post_uid0]
I'm not even sure [i:post_uid0]my[/i:post_uid0] grandmother know English. She knows a few words German, though. Yeah, a few words, which she learned when talking to a guy called Christian, once a year. :eyeroll:
But hey, my grand[i:post_uid0]father[/i:post_uid0] even [i:post_uid0]speaks[/i:post_uid0] some German. How's that? :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]But then again, most Dutch people do know English.[/quote:post_uid0]

Most Dutch people speak better English than the average North American, I've found.

[quote:post_uid0]I'm one of those superior snotty central Germans who thinks that the Bavarians need to get a damn clue.[/quote:post_uid0]

Bavarians are the Newfies of Germany, but without the fish.

[quote:post_uid0]Why can't you all learn something simple, like English for instance?[/quote:post_uid0]

Says the Scotsman.

[quote:post_uid0]On the other hand, modern German is essentially a streamlined Frankenstein of many different local dialects strung together into a halfway coherent monster.[/quote:post_uid0]

That's what you get for changing the dialect in every village. Go mass communications! *g*

Actually, I believe there's a continuum of Germanic dialects from the North Sea to the Polish border, which is why Cat can understand the Platt Germans (although not Dutch people from the North, which is baffling). Each dialect can more or less make out what its neighbours are saying, but the changes add up, so someone from Hamburg can't make sense of someone from Brandenburg unless they speak Frankenstein.

Same deal for the Romance languages. Supposedly there's a Portuguese-> Galicia -> Castilian -> Catalan -> French -> Provencal -> Italian continuum.

*pedant mode off*[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hm, I think you're right. I have much more trouble with Berlin German than the German close to home... Although, as far as I know, it [i:post_uid0]is[/i:post_uid0] the same German.

On the note of dialects, I just found out that a word I've always used as "depart", isn't Dutch. I'm perplexed. From some words I can imagine it'd be dialect, but this one is just so.. Dutch! Well, apparently not. :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[mudshark]

[quote:post_uid0="catalina_marina"][color=#000000:post_uid0]So you don't consider Dutch a foreign language? :p[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]I suppose [i:post_uid0]I[/i:post_uid0] would, personally, but I was speaking from the North German perspective, there -- I've known for a long time that they consider the Bavarians difficult to understand and the Austrians pretty well incomprehensible (and then there are the Swiss! :eyeroll: :D )
[quote:post_uid0]Most Dutch people speak better English than the average North American, I've found.[/quote:post_uid0]Also write it better (true as well for most of the other non-English-speaking countries in Europe.) Some days, I get the impression most Americans and many Brits learned the language from MTV or some equally reputable source, and picked up such writing skills as they possess entirely by accident.

My youngest brother studied at the Conservatory of Music in Rotterdam for two years and had a bit of trouble at first trying to pick up Dutch -- all the locals insisted on practicing their English on him. Eventually, it settled out that he would speak Dutch to them, they'd answer him in English and business more or less got taken care of. :lol:

[b:post_uid0]cat:[/b:post_uid0] which word? Just curious.[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Aanrijden.[/color:post_uid0]

[mudshark]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]It sure [i:post_uid0]looks[/i:post_uid0] like it ought to be Dutch. If not, what is it really?

Edit: BabelFish thinks it's Dutch, too; most of the pages on which the word appears have the .nl coding; one of them even shows you all the ways to conjugate it ... in Dutch.

But it's not. Weird.[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]And apparently the Dutch language has no word for "evil"!

Pretty ironic, considering my "Evil Dutch Woman" invention, :D[/color:post_uid0]

[taya17]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]There's no Dutch word for evil?!

That's not possible.

Oh, I got it: it's "Marijke".

:D[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Well, language invariably crosspollinates. I find that there's no major West-East language drift in German, but the North-South axis really kicks you in the shins. I was on vacation at a friend's house in Austria, and although I got the gist of what they were saying, there was quite a lot I felt I was missing.

The real difficulty in German dialects was the variant spelling, which was cleaned up when Hochdeutsch was introduced. (As early as Luther translated the bible, which is commonly seen as the first step to introduce an actual written German - as opposed to Latin and later French which was prevalent amongst the ruling class.) I generally consider myself to speak a pretty "high" German in that it's very close to official spelling, but I love using dialect to spice it up some, and then there's the whole slang aspect of being A) young B) into hacker culture and C) speaking fluent English. I tend to think I'm pretty understandable when I consciously keep myself on track - I've certainly never met somebody who didn't understand me for reasons of dialect. On the other hand, when I crack out my special style, German relates to it like

[code:1:post_uid0]
int main()
{
printf("Hello World!");
return(0);
}
[/code:1:post_uid0]

to the Obfuscated C Contest.

But the language you should never get me started on is Russian. I barely scraped by in school, and all I remember is how to read the cyrillic alphabet and say "I don't speak Russian" in Russian.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[Opium]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Is...very...confused...from...now...on...will...on ly...speak...Kirk.

Was ist das?
Das ist ein Computer.[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[quote:post_uid0="Nic Corelli"][color=#000000:post_uid0]And apparently the Dutch language has no word for "evil"![/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Buh... guh... whuh....

No word for evil? But it's the fun alignment![/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]And an apt description of the sandy Dutch forests!

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="mudshark"]It sure [i:post_uid0]looks[/i:post_uid0] like it ought to be Dutch. If not, what is it really?[/quote:post_uid0]
Supposedly, it's dialect. I still don't buy it though. :eyeroll:

[quote:post_uid0="mudshark"]Edit: BabelFish thinks it's Dutch, too; most of the pages on which the word appears have the .nl coding; one of them even shows you all the ways to conjugate it ... in Dutch.[/quote:post_uid0]
Oh, it's Dutch alright. It just means something else. See, as it turns out, that word has many meanings, one of which I haven't even heard of before. But "to depart" is not one of them. :eyeroll:

[quote:post_uid0="Nan"]No word for evil? But it's the fun alignment![/quote:post_uid0]
...And that's why we just call it "evil". :D

Of course, we don't translate "good" either... :eyeroll:

And I don't like it if someone says he's a "barbaar". Generally, we just don't translate anything dnd.[/color:post_uid0]

[PointyHairedJedi]

[color=#000000:post_uid11]Language makes my head hurt.[/color:post_uid11]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]It's what has kept me from trying to put together a Spycraft game here...I'm just not sure whether I should try to translate it (which would invariably cause confusion) or just use the English terms (which would invariably sound stupid).

So, yeah. On the contrary, English has no word for Gemütlichkeit. So there.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]Gemütlichkeit[/quote:post_uid0]

What's it mean?[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]*Looks up gemütlichkeit*

Ehm. Ok. Just before I looked it up, I was going to say English has no word for "gezellig" either. It's kinda superfluous now. :eyeroll:

Also, what's up with "not" not having an opposite?

[quote:post_uid0]What's it mean?[/quote:post_uid0]
That depends. What other language, besides English, do you know? :eyeroll:[/color:post_uid0]

[mudshark]

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"][color=#000000:post_uid0]English has no word for Gemütlichkeit.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]"Cordiality" would seem to do the trick.

[i:post_uid0]Schadenfreude[/i:post_uid0], on the other hand ...[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Gemütlichkeit is more than a simple word. The sheer concept of it is inconveyable. Unless you're at an Oktoberfest and ingesting large quantities of alcohol.

Oh, yeah, Schadenfreude. Everybody does it, but only we can name it. :)

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0="Gatac"]Gemütlichkeit is more than a simple word. The sheer concept of it is inconveyable.[/quote:post_uid0]
I couldn't agree more. :)

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"]Oh, yeah, Schadenfreude. Everybody does it, but only we can name it. :)[/quote:post_uid0]
Leedvermaak. You're not [i:post_uid0]that[/i:post_uid0] unique. ;)

But wouldn't that translate as malicious pleasure?[/color:post_uid0]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]wow a whole page of gibberish! lol well to me it's gibberish. I know Hebrew! well a little Hebrew. I can't type that out on this thing though...

Sab

PS I speak Southernese pretty good! ask me what chitlins are! :)[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[quote:post_uid0="admiral sab"][color=#000000:post_uid0]ask me what chitlins are! :)[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]No. :p[/color:post_uid0]

[taya17]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]*I* know what schadenfreude is... it's my favourite German word, aside from the full name for "panzer", which I've completely forgotten.

Nope, I don't speak German at all. :)[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Malicious pleasure would be pretty close word-wise, but I'm not sure if it conveys the right concept. This is a fusion of language and culture and can not be plucked apart like that.

Everybody loves the word "panzer". Which is all the more perplexing when you consider that we first used the English word for them. (Which lead to names like the Tankgewehr 1918, perhaps the world's first serious anti-material rifle.) But I disgress...

What [b:post_uid0]are[/b:post_uid0] chitlins?

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[taya17]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]I think Matt Ridley put it very well in his book [i:post_uid0]Genome:[/i:post_uid0]

<blockquote>"It would be absurd to argue that only Germans can understand the concept of taking pleasure at another's misfortune; and the rest of us, not having a word for [i:post_uid0]Schadenfreude[/i:post_uid0], find the concept entirely foreign. "</blockquote>
Interestingly enough, it was in a chapter about language being a genetically programmed instinct.

And yes. What be chitlins, Sab?[/color:post_uid0]

[admiral sab]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]we call children chitlins sometimes. But it's also a food.
I was raised in the north til I was 9 so I can honestly say I've never had a chitlin nor had any desire to, but I know what it is. Believe me I wish I didn't. But don't take my word for it. I have a link! Chitlins! (http://www.moo-oink.com/ChitlinHistory.htm)

LOL isn't that gross? who wants some pig intestines? ;) here's the urban dictionary terms: slang (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chitlins)

just remember, you asked. :)

Sab[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0][quote:post_uid0]t's my favourite German word, aside from the full name for "panzer", which I've completely forgotten.[/quote:post_uid0]

Panzerkampfwagen, with capitals thrown in at random.[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"][color=#000000:post_uid0]with capitals thrown in at random.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Sounds German to me. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]That's the exact spelling, Sa'ar, but you won't find any German saying more than "Panzer". We're dreadfully complicated in writing, but most people don't talk that way. Well, I do, but only when I deliberately want to confuse someone. :)

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[quote:post_uid0="Sa'ar Chasm"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Bavarians are the Newfies of Germany, but without the fish.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]First: [i:post_uid0]ouch.[/i:post_uid0]

Second: The Newfies are also lacking fish. So that make sthe Bavarians the Newfies of Germany anyway.

To be fair, Newfies are cool. They just have an unfortunate accent.[/color:post_uid0]

[Nan]

[quote:post_uid0="taya17"][color=#000000:post_uid0]...the concept of taking pleasure at another's misfortune...[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Ah. Closest thing in English is "sadistic" near as I can tell, but it's not quite exact.[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]No, definately not. That's taking pleasure in somebody else's pain (and very probably being the cause of it, too); Schadenfreude is just generally about misfortune. Like laughing when somebody slips and lands face-first in the dirt.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"][color=#000000:post_uid0]No, definately not. That's taking pleasure in somebody else's pain (and very probably being the cause of it, too); Schadenfreude is just generally about misfortune. Like laughing when somebody slips and lands face-first in the dirt.

Gatac[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]And so I say again, leedvermaak.[/color:post_uid0]

[Sa'ar Chasm]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]According to the Simpsons, the closest English equivalent is "shameful joy."[/color:post_uid0]

[Gatac]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]No, no, no! Schadenfreude does not imply shame for laughing, it's neutral. Shameful joy does not fit that.

Why don't you people just give it up? There IS no English word. Move along home, nothing to see here. :)

Gatac[/color:post_uid0]

[Nic Corelli]

[quote:post_uid0="Gatac"][color=#000000:post_uid0]Schadenfreude is just generally about misfortune. Like laughing when somebody slips and lands face-first in the dirt.[/color:post_uid0][/quote:post_uid0]
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Ah, but there is an English word for that.

[i:post_uid0]Seinfeld[/i:post_uid0]. :D[/color:post_uid0]

[catalina_marina]

[color=#000000:post_uid0]Babelfish gives [i:post_uid0]damage joy[/i:post_uid0]. :lol:[/color:post_uid0]