request a fiver

[MaverickZer0]

No, I haven't. (I've heard of it...but never seen it. There's precious little I can do to get new anime around here.)
...Let me revise that. 'On the grounds that Zeke doesn't watch MegaMan NT Warrior'. Better?

[Nate the Great]

You know, it suddenly occured to me, Trigun is sort of sci-fi, right? Okay, it's a western/steampunk anime, but close enough for government work, right? Would anyone else like fivers of that? My friend loaned me his DVD set, and that would be totally cool. Anyone else think that'd be nice? I think I could do justice to it.

[mark726]

I was always a bit confused by Trigun, to be honest, but I would definitely count it as sci-fi. Then again, is 5M.net really limited to sci fi? I mean, it does have The OC, which is hardly sci fi.

[Nate the Great]

I don't know anything about the OC, but you do raise a good point. How do you define sci fi? I suppose you could claim that there are only a few discrete realms of fiction, such as fantasy, sci fi, historical fiction, etc. If we define sci fi as any fictional world where elements that aren't found in the "real world" are based on science (or at least pseudoscience), then Trigun definitely qualifies. Pure fantasy contains elements that can't possibly exist, at least given our current understanding of nature. We can imagine interstellar travel, cybernetics, infusing photosyntesis into a humanoid form, etc, as being possible so Trigun is sci fi. Pure fantasy contains elements that we don't even TRY to explain. Magic, leprechauns making pots of gold out of nothing, designing guys like Juggernaut that clearly defy the laws of physics, etc are fantasy. Imagine it as the difference between Batman and Superman. We try to explain the "science" of Superman, but we all know that it's blatantly impossible. Batman, however, is supposed to have everything about him be scientifically plausible, if nothing else. Batman is sci fi, Superman is fantasy.

Comments?

[MaverickZer0]

I always thought of Trigun as an action/adventure/sci-fi anime. It'd probably qualify.
Not that I've ever seen it or anything, but from what I've heard.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by MaverickZer0

...Let me revise that. 'On the grounds that Zeke doesn't watch MegaMan NT Warrior'. Better?

'Fraid not! I watch it when I get the chance. I don't like some of the changes made for the show, especially Cross Fusion, but it's cool just seeing the game characters on TV.

Anyway, I'm not so iron-fisted as to keep for myself any show I might ever consider fiving. If you want to try an NT Warrior fiver, I'm all for it. Just don't do the pilot. (And I will be doing the games, so I'm afraid no one's getting those off me.)

[Nate the Great]

I liked NT Warrior well enough, but to me it had a few problems:

1. They jumped into the N1 Grand Prix WAY too fast. I think the network people were afraid that the first episodes were boring and that they were losing viewers. The reason for that is:
2. The new episodes came too randomly for people to keep up. For myself, once I saw that there were gaps in my knowledge from episodes that I'd missed, I got turned off. Face facts, you can miss twenty episodes of Pokemon and still be on the right page when you come back, but miss three episodes of NT Warrior and you get completely lost.
3. They started to rely on flashier and flashier tricks to keep the viewers hooked. One thing that turned me off about Digimon Season Three is when they chucked the Digimodify stuff (a twist that I particularily liked) to return to "normal" digivolution. What's wrong with filler? It helps to tell us about what all these people are like. I like minor characters, too!
4. They could never maintain a regular broadcast schedule. This is a common complaint of mine for Kids WB, they keep shuffling the shows around as if "New Time!" will draw us back. I tape the whole five-hour block and watch what I like. It doesn't matter when it's on, if I like it I like it and if I don't then I don't.

If anyone wants to five NT Warrior that's okay with me, but I won't be doing it.

[MaverickZer0]

'On the grounds that I have seen the whole series and Zeke hasn't'?

I wasn't even going to try the games. Since I haven't played the first one and all, and I don't want to restart mine, and the only thing I ever took notes on was the ProtoSoul scenario in Blue Moon. (...what?)

1. The N1 arc was okay. I preferred that they got the tournament out of the way quicker so that the rest of the series wasn't bogged down with it.

2. I never had that problem. They were aired more consistenly up here when they were on (plus I've downloaded the subbed Japanese series, which IMO is much better).

3. Style Change and Soul Unison (I will NOT call it Double Soul) were from the games, as were Program Advances. Cross Fusion wasn't, but it's cool and the henshin sequences are fun. And there are so many minor characters in the later series it makes my brain hurt. Even I don't know them all.

4. Yeah. Teletoon was pretty regular.


I wouldn't five NT Warrior. After watching the original it would kill my poor brain. I'd five the original Rockman.exe series based on the subtitles, and that way there'd be no splicing or anythng, and I could refrain from the obvious dubbing jokes. I could still use the English names, just bill the other ones as 'lost episodes' or something. ('Cause they cut out like three in Canada, and twelve in the US.) I might take a crack at it sometimes soon, as I have the whole original, but Axess has only been half subbed.

So maybe. Probably.

...yeah.

[Nate the Great]

Hey, I never said that the N1 Grand Prix was bad, I just would've liked another dozen episodes before it. More of Lan getting used to be a hero, a little more Chaud foreshadowing, less of this "Oh, you just got your Navi, so now we want you to be a cyber-superhero!" Oh, and more fish jokes! You can't go wrong with fish jokes.

On a sidenote, anyone else slightly put off by the smoothness of the animation? Everyone looked like they were shrinkwrapped or something. Or maybe that's just me.

[MaverickZer0]

*pokes avatar* Nur. No, not really. Made it easier to change the hair color. *likes this color for various reasons, but mostly because of how it makes him look, especially in that screencap*

Fish jokes are awesome. And I would've loved more Chaud foreshadowing, too. But I think they cut out two or three episodes before the N1. In the original, it wasn't until the tenth episode that it started.

Spoiler warning for post-Axess and anything you haven't seen: Full episode guide here.

[Zeke]

Wow, I didn't know we had another EXE fan here at the forum (besides me, Mav, and Chaud/Itachi). And I heard from another one by email after I posted that last Top 10 list. Good to know these references aren't going to waste.