Torchwood discussion (spoilers)

[mudshark]

Valium, you wouldn't be acquainted with a gentleman from Edinborough who goes by the name Jim Steele, would you? He seems to hold an opinion of Torchwood similar to yours.

[Chancellor Valium]

Originally Posted by mudshark

Valium, you wouldn't be acquainted with a gentleman from Edinborough who goes by the name Jim Steele, would you? He seems to hold an opinion of Torchwood similar to yours.

Nope.

It's a popular opinion, however...

[Zeke]

I've now seen the first four episodes of Torchwood and, despite what everyone else seems to think, I love it. (This really is a pattern with me, isn't it?) Jack and Gwen are capable leads, and the stories have been interesting if not hugely original. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest.

[Zeke]

Having now seen the whole season, I can say for certain that you're all nuts. Torchwood is by no means a perfect show, but it's a great one. So much of what I loved about early Angel is reincarnated in this show. (It was no surprise when I read that RTD is a big Joss Whedon fan.)

I hope you'll give it another try, Valium. But if it's not for you, it's not for you.

[Katy Jane]

I like Torchwood too... the only episode i didn't like was Countrycide I shut that one off because it was starting to feel like a slasher movie :s

[PointyHairedJedi]

Originally Posted by Zeke

...I can say for certain that you're all nuts.

For stating the obvious, I award you one apple pie.

[Chancellor Valium]

@Zeke: *I*'m nuts?!

A 2-dimensional, ridiculous, unreal camp-fest with stupid characters who are also seemingly utter nymphomaniacs, pathetic dialogue, outrageously stupid plots and a total lack of thinking in general like that is *not* good TV.

Evidence: The final two-parter kiss: That would not have been reacted to in such a manner as portrayed even *remotely* in the '40's. In fact, that's less historically accurate than Clarke's fictional film Napoleon in 2061.

I've written better while dead drunk.

It doesn't take much for me to find a redeeming feature in a programme, and I searched, but after twenty minutes of a single episode, the urge to gouge my own eyes out was overpowering, the dialogue vomit-worthy, the plot horrendously stupid, the characters less realistic and more two-dimensional than the Mr. Men.

As I said, it made me break my one cardinal rule of TV-watching - switch off.

And as I said, I didn't even do that to Love and Monsters.

The only other thing I've done it to was The Horns of Nimon, and then only out of sheer boredom with the story - with this, it was too awful to watch.

[Zeke]

Torchwood is back! I couldn't watch the Season 2 pilot tonight, but I'll be doing so as soon as possible in entirely legitimate and legal fashion with no laws being broken. (Legally.)

This season we've got a new character played by James Marsters -- always fun to watch, and hopefully the solution to this show's shortage of recurring villains. There'll also be a guest spot later by Martha from last season of Doctor Who. Jack spent some time with her and the Doctor at the end of that season; the impression we got was that he'll now be returning to Torchwood with a renewed enthusiasm. But can he (and should he) just forget about the team's betrayal? And now that he's accomplished his most cherished goal of the last hundred years -- seeing the Doctor again -- how will things change for him? I for one look forward to finding out.

(Like a couple of others, I've renamed this thread to make it more "official".)