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That reminds me, does anyone say STTMP as stimp and TWOK as twok? I do, sometimes.

To return to music...sort of...

Any opinions on the lack of monologue in the DS9 and VOY openers? Good? Bad? Music so good that talking would spoil the effect?
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That reminds me, does anyone say STTMP as stimp and TWOK as twok?
No. Just you.
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The best music of Trek is, in my mind, the first movie's. No contest. It has a sizable lead above First Contact's.

On that note, I wonder if I'm the only one bugged by what TNG did to TMP's theme. It was so grand and majestic and... quintissential Trek in the film. It just seemed hokey in the credits for TNG. Too sped up, too rushed. Nowhere near as powerful.
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On that note, I wonder if I'm the only one bugged by what TNG did to TMP's theme.
I've heard other people express that sentiment, but I'm not one of them. I enjoy them both the way they are.
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I must agree with Derek. The central theme wasn't the best part for me anyhow - that would have to be the stuff with V'Ger (just love that blaster!).
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Yeah, I love TMP's Klingon music and TMP's Ilia's Theme. Those sound great.
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On that note, I wonder if I'm the only one bugged by what TNG did to TMP's theme. It was so grand and majestic and... quintissential Trek in the film. It just seemed hokey in the credits for TNG. Too sped up, too rushed. Nowhere near as powerful.
Yes and no.

I saw TMP in the theater when it was new, and was so underwhelmed by it that I never even thought about watching it again until years later, much less listened to the music. Similarly, I wasn't really aware that TNG had borrowed the same music for its theme until near the end of its initial run.

I did, however, grow very tired of hearing the TNG theme -- it's all surface, too splashy -- even the two-second stinger going to commercial made me grit my teeth after a while. In fairness, I think a good part of my reaction to it may have been the glut of John Williams Movie Music™ that had already been pervading the entertainment biz for nearly ten years when TNG premiered. Even stuff that John Williams never touched had to sound like it had his fingerprints all over it. It was everywhere -- you couldn't escape it -- and a lot of it wasn't very good. (I had a similar reaction to the early DS9 theme because of the self-consciously Copland-y overtones, another entertainment-biz schtick which had really been done to death during the same period.)

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I must agree with Derek. The central theme wasn't the best part for me anyhow - that would have to be the stuff with V'Ger (just love that blaster!).
And remember who invented the instrument ('Blaster Beam') used during that sequence?

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IJD, heard you had tornadoes in your general vicinity. Manage to stay out of the way all right?
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Well, I could say something along the lines of "you don't really have time for majesty in only a minute for the title sequence," but that's not true. After all, the 2001: ASO theme carries majesty in ten seconds.

Well, I have to agree to the "watered-down TNG theme" thing a bit, but now that I think about it...what did you expect? It was the eighties! It was a pastel decade, just like the fifties. Pastels are pleasant and all that, but the sixties/nineties are much more bold. Not that bold is better, just different.
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Yeah, tornadoes were elsewhere. I'm not even 100% sure where Lake County is (been meaning to look that up).
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North and west of Orlando, looks like. Good place for it (or would southwest have been better?)
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hhhhmmmmmm. Monologue on DS9's opening titles...
Monolouge on a sci-fi show set on a space station...What could they say?

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It failed.

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Our last best hope, for victory...

The year is 2373, the place, Deep Space Nine."


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