The most sickening word in the English Language

[Burt]

Oh heavens...!
Batman Begins I'll give you - that was rather deep (Too deep if you ask me).
But Royale? That was an action movie. Bond is deep. Royale was not. It was just another american action movie.

[Gatac]

...you're kidding, right? The most unflattering thing that can be said about Royale is that it's not exactly a "classical" Bond movie, but I've never heard anyone compare it to the others and have it come out as the bad one. In most everyone's eyes, Royale was a big damn improvement. It's not even just a good Bond movie, it's a really good movie, period.

Honestly, if you wanna talk about how messed up remakes are, how about I Spy, Charlie's Angels or Starksy & Hutch? You know, remakes that were actually bad? Instead, you're railing on those few remakes where pretty much everyone thinks that they came out well ahead of the old version.

Gatac

[Burt]

I think you missed my point.
I didn't say Royale was bad. I'm saying it wasn't Bond. I'm not a huge Bond fan but I did go to see it with a couple of big fans. After they just sighed and said that it wasn't bond anymore. It was (Their word) an american action movie.
Batman Begins, I've been told, is just what the fans wanted. That said, I'm really not sure if I would be happy seeing another guy play Kirk and redoing the begining of Trek.

It's not so much remakes that are bad, I'm thinking of. More one's that missing the point of the show itself.

But seriously, guys, you need to stop thinking this is some sort of attack or moan or something. It's just a worry I have. I like Trek. I love Trek. I just worry what they're gonna do with it.

[ijdgaf]

I'm just amused by the assertion that Bond is deep, but Casino Royale was just another action movie. Bond deep? Casino Royale had more characterisation than the other twenty movies put together. You've got real drama, real motivations, real pathos. The other movies, and I do love them to death, had... gadgets? Half naked chicks? There's definitely a charm there, but I'd hardly call it "deep".

Just another action movie? No, I think most of the previous Bond movies were generic action movies. This one actually had some substance. To each his own I guess, but arguing against a 94% fresh rating is even crazier than arguing against a 33% approval rating.