Feature: Eleven Is Prime

[Wowbagger]

I thought I had more to say to Zeke, but it turns out all I have to say is this:

I actually think the canon evidence (the "inconsistencies" pointed out by the Cynic) demonstrates that there really was a Voyager Conspiracy of some kind. What it was and who was involved, I'm not sure, but the stuff Seven uncovered doesn't just go away because everyone hugs in the end.

My biggest problem with the episode has always been that they took this hugely ambitious and exciting premise, a huge opportunity for Seven-as-Outsider to define herself and shake things up, and threw it away for an another easy "Seven goes berzerk" J/7 'shipper 'sode. Still fun, but there should have been a conspiracy.

And I think that tells you everything you need to know about the man who wrote XIP.

[Zeke]

I just remembered something that really bothers me about the '09 film. This seems as good a place to bring it up as any.

The scene where George and Winona Kirk decide what to call Jim is both moving and funny. Maybe that's how the conversation went in the "prime" timeline. But you know what? This baby's father just died to save him.

There is no way in this timeline or any other that he's not getting named George.

[evay]

Except that in the original timline Jim Kirk already had an older brother named George — Jim calls him "Sam," but his full name is George Samuel Kirk.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/George_Samuel_Kirk

George Samuel Kirk was the brother of Starfleet captain James T. Kirk. He was usually called George, but his brother always called him Sam.

Sam was born in 2229, Jim in 2233.

(And that George Foreman business of giving all his sons the same first name is asinine, so no, that wouldn't happen.)

[Zeke]

This has now been pointed out to me a few times (here and on Facebook). I think I must have had it in my head that George was the younger brother, in which case he wouldn't exist in STXI's timeline. Actually, since his scene in the movie was cut, that's still a possibility -- I'm pretty sure canon is neutral on which brother is older.

Anyway, I still think there's a pretty good chance Jim would get George for a middle or "silent" first name. Believe me, if somebody died saving my newborn child, I'd give the child that name no matter how many times I'd used it already.