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![]() Thoughts: -Continuity was not airtight, but what else is new. My major nitpicks are the fact that it took them about three seconds to start using the word "nanoprobes", and the whole events-in-[i ![]() ![]() -This episode was not original. ... -That said, this episode was about as good as it could be given the concept. The borg didn't need to be on [i ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Take that as you will.[/color ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() Secondly, I think "Regeneration" proves something I've always wondered: you [i ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My head hurts. I did have a few other nitpicks. Phlox's cure seemed a little too convenient. Starfleet having all those scans of the Borg is way too far past continuity, even given the FC time loop -- I'm sure they could have found a way around that. And shouldn't the assimilation been faster? These are Borg from the 24th century, after all, and every assimilation I've ever seen is much faster than the slow progression we saw here. (Okay, so Phlox said he slowed it down... but then why did no one ever figure this out in the 24th century?) And how did the "Borg" ship get all the way to Enterprise that fast? Hasn't Enterprise been travelling away from Earth, more or less, for almost two years? Even with the Borg modifications they couldn't go near that far, that fast. That all being said, I enjoyed this one. A lot. The crew's initial lack of caution has consequences, and John Billingsley turned in another fantastic performance as Phlox dealt with his own "infection". I liked Archer being forced into blowing up the "Borg" ship.[/color ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() Hmm. Don't quote me on this, but I thought they had came back closer to earth in the Mayweather episode, to put him on that cargo ship thing. But then i'm not sure. ![]() ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() It is unlikely that they have been travelling in a straight line from Earth. Instead, I imagine they used the Vulcan star charts to pick points of interest, and then plot a rough itenerary of when they would visit those points. Their track would resemble more of a zigzag. Also, the Enterprise was not travelling at warp 3 for the whole journey, unlike the Borg transport. *phew* Now on to what I thought... I agree with earlier points about the slow assimilation process. I was expecting the Tarkalian's (spelling?) apperance to change drastically from when we first saw them on the biobed, to when they were blown out into space. My major problem, though, is that the Enterprise wasn't cut up like a christmas turkey. The borg had 3 days to modify the transport before they left. That would mean that they'd have plenty of time to salvage any borg weaponry from the sphere. If the sphere's weapons could wreak havoc with 24th century ships, why didn't Enterprise's hull plating fail on the first shot? Oh, and weren't all the drones transported to the Enterprise - E? Why were there survivors on the sphere? Given these above points, I thought the episode was well executed. The music was excellent, and truly accented the fear and genuine danger involved throughout. If nothing, this episode gives a glimpse (albeit a small one), of the potential that this series has, and I believe this episode was a step in the right direction. P.S. Can you spot the saucer section of the Enterprise E's model jutting out of the snow?[/color ![]()
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![]() ![]() Also, the Enterprise was not travelling at warp 3 for the whole journey, unlike the Borg transport.[/quote ![]() Naturally, but still don't you think they'd be a little farther than a few days' journey from Earth by now? Something I noticed on TrekToday caught my attention (I avoided spoilers, then went back and read articles after having seen the ep): [quote ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I see two possibilities from this. One, derived from "will not happen," is that there is something we don't know -- such as this being an entirely alternate timeline that will ultimately be erased. Two, the producers are not as intelligent as I'm giving them credit for, and they are ignoring the events of "Q Who?" in favor of the events of [i ![]() ![]() ![]()
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![]() ![]() Or,like, then wouldnt there have been a different Enterprise if there HAD been Borg's? And didnt the First Conact crew go to an alternate timeline, that wasnt altered at all, because everything happened as it was supposed too, which meant that someone in the future had come back in THIER history...so then in Enterprise wouldnt they have the same future and past as the post-Contact ie, current Voyager/DS9 timeline, only of course DS9 went back in time twice, and Voyager too, so does that mean we have been seeing people in different timelines interacting? And also, because the Borg was all destroyed, how could they come back a hundred or so years later, and *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM* *head explodes* :swear:[/color ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() If you think about it, it explains a heck of a lot.[/color ![]()
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![]() The producers were actually trying to reconcile "Q Who?" and "The Neutral Zone". In "The Neutral Zone" the Borg were on the outskirts of known space already. I mean, they were picking off Federation/Romulan outposts along the Neutral Zone. So why were they there? For a DQ-based people, why were they expanding so far toward the AQ when they hadn't even assimilated all of the DQ or BQ? This is the question they tried to answer. I think they did a pretty good job in that regard. And since I'm posting anyway, here's what I thought of the episode: likes: - the tension dominating the entire first act - the "Conspiracy" sort of ending at the end - the semi-Borg * - the music dislikes: - some of the implausibility of the episode based on what we know of the Borg * I liked the semi-Borg that we saw. It made sense that since they didn't have a facility where they could integrate the mechanical components what we'd get is mostly biological Borg. To an extent this tells us what part of the Borg's abilities are due to the nanoprobes and what part are due to their machine-enhancements. In all frankness I find it hard to believe that nanoprobes somehow create the personal shields against phaser fire. I also find it difficult to accept that their assimilation tubules are somehow created by the nanoprobes as well, but, oh well. Last thought: When watching the ending of the episode, I was reminded of "Relativity" where Seven was explaining how through a paradox, the Borg's efforts to stop Zefram Cochrane actually ended up allowing him to succeed in the end. It seems that those same efforts also started the Borg vs Federation struggle which instigates the Borg's efforts to go back in time.[/color ![]()
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![]() And then Patrick Duffy will guest star, and the entire crew will move to Trip's ranch in Texas.[/color ![]()
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![]() - this is Star Trek, and - this is a prequel. If you're going to do a prequel, make one. Don't reset the franchize, alter the timeline slightly, or anything like that. So far, none of the continuity issues have been so irreconciliable that I feel it has to be an alternate universe. I'm much more fond of [i ![]() ![]() Now, if they use a reset button to do this (which I despise even more than the AU idea), I'll have to go on a berserker rage and kill special ops soldiers with my adamantium claws. :::reminisces over [i ![]() ![]() ![]()
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